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> The app will ask users to scan their face through a computer or smartphone webcam; alternatively, they can scan a driver’s license or other form of ID.

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  • bl4kers@lemmy.mlB This user is from outside of this forum
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    The app will ask users to scan their face through a computer or smartphone webcam; alternatively, they can scan a driver’s license or other form of ID.

    comes in response to laws passed in those countries that place guardrails on youth access to online platforms.

    Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don't want young children on there. Any expectation of anonymity on Discord, a social network, is not warranted. Ask any number of users who've been prosecuted based on evidence turned over by Discord. It's also US-based

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      The app will ask users to scan their face through a computer or smartphone webcam; alternatively, they can scan a driver’s license or other form of ID.

      comes in response to laws passed in those countries that place guardrails on youth access to online platforms.

      Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don't want young children on there. Any expectation of anonymity on Discord, a social network, is not warranted. Ask any number of users who've been prosecuted based on evidence turned over by Discord. It's also US-based

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      I mean. . . It should be up to the parents to protect and educate their children. It is very easy to set up protections on a computer to either not let them use discord or to not allow them to install it.

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        The app will ask users to scan their face through a computer or smartphone webcam; alternatively, they can scan a driver’s license or other form of ID.

        comes in response to laws passed in those countries that place guardrails on youth access to online platforms.

        Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don't want young children on there. Any expectation of anonymity on Discord, a social network, is not warranted. Ask any number of users who've been prosecuted based on evidence turned over by Discord. It's also US-based

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        I feel like we need a less invasive form of age verification or we need actual data privacy laws in the US with some teeth. As it is right now it's basically a guarantee that your ID and facial data will be in a breach eventually. Seems like every site will require this once it starts.

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          The app will ask users to scan their face through a computer or smartphone webcam; alternatively, they can scan a driver’s license or other form of ID.

          comes in response to laws passed in those countries that place guardrails on youth access to online platforms.

          Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don't want young children on there. Any expectation of anonymity on Discord, a social network, is not warranted. Ask any number of users who've been prosecuted based on evidence turned over by Discord. It's also US-based

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          the creators of the laws requiring said guardrails should be held personally accountable for every piece of information that gets leaked as a result of their bs "think of the children" arguments.

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            The app will ask users to scan their face through a computer or smartphone webcam; alternatively, they can scan a driver’s license or other form of ID.

            comes in response to laws passed in those countries that place guardrails on youth access to online platforms.

            Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don't want young children on there. Any expectation of anonymity on Discord, a social network, is not warranted. Ask any number of users who've been prosecuted based on evidence turned over by Discord. It's also US-based

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            Why shouldn't young children be able to use Discord? I have kids and want them to be able to use it to chat while they play games with friends and with me.

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              The app will ask users to scan their face through a computer or smartphone webcam; alternatively, they can scan a driver’s license or other form of ID.

              comes in response to laws passed in those countries that place guardrails on youth access to online platforms.

              Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don't want young children on there. Any expectation of anonymity on Discord, a social network, is not warranted. Ask any number of users who've been prosecuted based on evidence turned over by Discord. It's also US-based

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              I agree. Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don’t want young children on here. Any expectation of anonymity on Lemmy, a social network, is not warranted.

              /s

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                Why shouldn't young children be able to use Discord? I have kids and want them to be able to use it to chat while they play games with friends and with me.

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                I have kids too. I'm not singling out Discord here, just pointing out they're trying to follow the law.

                Young kids and social media are inherently a bad mix. Primarily because it promotes antisocial behaviors and they cannot effectively comprehend and consent to the privacy polices and TOS. Hence why adults need to be involved in account creation.

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                  I mean. . . It should be up to the parents to protect and educate their children. It is very easy to set up protections on a computer to either not let them use discord or to not allow them to install it.

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                  That's a false dichotomy. Parents can and should protect children. Social media sites can and should protect children. It's in the social interest. Parents don't have control over every device a child has access to. Firewalls at schools and libraries are often lackluster

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                    I agree. Personally this sounds pretty reasonable. I don’t want young children on here. Any expectation of anonymity on Lemmy, a social network, is not warranted.

                    /s

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                    Correct, I don't really want 12-year-olds commenting here either. Do you? Genuine question

                    Though Lemmy instances are largely public. You don't need an account to view their contents. So that's pretty different from Discord

                    For the record, I do think the laws will apply to Lemmy instances

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                      I feel like we need a less invasive form of age verification or we need actual data privacy laws in the US with some teeth. As it is right now it's basically a guarantee that your ID and facial data will be in a breach eventually. Seems like every site will require this once it starts.

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                      I feel like we need a less invasive form of age verification

                      Yep. Probably a billion dollar idea if you can execute it properly. These laws are spurring competition

                      I think most people's facial data is already for sale and breachable/leakable

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                      • bl4kers@lemmy.mlB [email protected]

                        Correct, I don't really want 12-year-olds commenting here either. Do you? Genuine question

                        Though Lemmy instances are largely public. You don't need an account to view their contents. So that's pretty different from Discord

                        For the record, I do think the laws will apply to Lemmy instances

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                        I don't care about the user's age, I care about their behavior.

                        There are adults here that act immature and bicker like a child, I don't want those either.

                        Its easier to enforce a code of conduct and ban users with bad behavior, rather than something arbitrary, like age.

                        How are you even suppose to verify someone's age without violating privacy?

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                          I don't care about the user's age, I care about their behavior.

                          There are adults here that act immature and bicker like a child, I don't want those either.

                          Its easier to enforce a code of conduct and ban users with bad behavior, rather than something arbitrary, like age.

                          How are you even suppose to verify someone's age without violating privacy?

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                          Interesting. I think most users would assume they're talking to other adults and might change their language or behavior if they thought they were conversing with children

                          Age is anything but arbitrary from a law perspective. With these laws there is no expectation of privacy in regards to age. I'd argue there never was, it was just poorly enforced and got normalized

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                            That's a false dichotomy. Parents can and should protect children. Social media sites can and should protect children. It's in the social interest. Parents don't have control over every device a child has access to. Firewalls at schools and libraries are often lackluster

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                            Personally I won't use a site that wants to scan my face. My computer doesn't even have a camera.

                            I am also not going to upload a scan of my ID. We are on Lemmy for goodness sake. Clearly I care at least a little bit about my privacy.

                            It seems to me that there is no good way to ensure that children are kept away from content they shouldn't have access to without serious privacy concerns.

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