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Bad film with amazing premise and mediocre execution that you can't stop thinking about?

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    Christian Bale is English. His accent in Reign of Fire is not far off his normal accent.

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    You are shitting me!

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      Mutant Chronicles, except i don't think about it normally, but immediately comes to mind when somebody asks similar question. Also it wasn't mediocre, it was incredibly bad and the second biggest disapointment movie ever for me (worst was Starship Troopers 2).

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      Premise seems pretty cool (mutant/zombie machine), and I guess it's kind of a cool but forgettable action flick?

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        The Last Jedi was an amazing deconstruction of Star Wars. I don't think better execution would have helped it with a fan base that wants to be stuck in the past reliving the hero's journey ad nauseam but it had a lot more potential than you see on screen.

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        • tetris11@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

          Premise seems pretty cool (mutant/zombie machine), and I guess it's kind of a cool but forgettable action flick?

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          I played a lot of tabletop and card games in this universe in 90's so i was pretty excited for a movie, and while it was forgettable (but also bad) action flick its main fault was that it has basically nothing in common with the Mutant Chronicles universe.

          It's like getting "Lord of the RIngs" movie, but about some gang war in a village southeast of Umbar.

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            I played a lot of tabletop and card games in this universe in 90's so i was pretty excited for a movie, and while it was forgettable (but also bad) action flick its main fault was that it has basically nothing in common with the Mutant Chronicles universe.

            It's like getting "Lord of the RIngs" movie, but about some gang war in a village southeast of Umbar.

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            It’s like getting “Lord of the RIngs” movie, but about some gang war in a village southeast of Umbar.

            I mean. I would watch that.

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              Never watched it, but am intrigued. How so?

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                Jupiter Ascending

                They seed the galaxy and harvest whole planets to create an immortality serum. Fantastic world concept ... but a subpar story to make a movie about within that world.

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                • tetris11@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                  It’s like getting “Lord of the RIngs” movie, but about some gang war in a village southeast of Umbar.

                  I mean. I would watch that.

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                  In this case i would like to recommend some books for you:

                  1. The Last Ringbearer by Kirill Yeskov
                  2. Ring of Darkness series by Nik Perumov

                  Basically unlicenced Middleearth fanfics written by Russian authors but a good ones and getting officially published in multiple countries.

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                    Never watched it, but am intrigued. How so?

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                    Rian Johnson is a master of deconstructing genres.

                    if you went this long without watching it I won't spoil it but to say the themes are not typical of the rest of the franchise and the fans hated it for that.

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                      The live action transformers movies.
                      Although I almost never think about it.
                      And I only saw the first thirty minutes of the first movie.

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                        In this case i would like to recommend some books for you:

                        1. The Last Ringbearer by Kirill Yeskov
                        2. Ring of Darkness series by Nik Perumov

                        Basically unlicenced Middleearth fanfics written by Russian authors but a good ones and getting officially published in multiple countries.

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                        thanks, starred your comment!

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                          The live action transformers movies.
                          Although I almost never think about it.
                          And I only saw the first thirty minutes of the first movie.

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                          I watched it until the Megan Fox car breakdown scene and figured it wouldn't get better than that and stopped there. I don't remember anything else from the movie.

                          I admit that it surprised me it did well enough for sequels, when better films didn't, but I guess that's The Public for you.

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                            Just watched The Gorge (2025) recently. I wouldn't say it's a bad film, but it was really mediocre.

                            I love the premise of having the two guard towers, one on each side of a mysterious and foggy gorge, not supposed to communicate with each other, guarding us all from whatever is down there. People have previously gone in but never come out. Strange monsters sometimes attempt the climb up the cliff walls. Is it the gate to hell? What's the story behind it all? Chemistry slowly happens between the guards of the two towers.

                            (If you think you might enjoy this movie, don't read my spoilers. Just watch it. I liked it even though it was a bit disappointing.)

                            ::: spoiler spoiler
                            But the good setup and world building is quickly over and then they both enter the gorge, and it's just an old evacuated biological lab that created super soldiers, and the whole thing instantly stops being mysterious.

                            They could have kept it mysterious for longer and given us some kind of twist perhaps, like they might discover they're guarding the site of an old defunct biolab, but some things don't add up, and it turns out to be the actual gates of hell. I also don't think Drasa should have dived straight in to rescue Levi. Let her hesitate for a while. Create tension. Keep them separated, him somewhere below and her in her tower (perhaps she will need to get over to his tower to reactivate the auto-turrets or do something important, she believes he's gone), and cut between showing both their struggles. Perhaps he then manages to contact her, and then a rescue effort begins.
                            :::

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                              You are shitting me!

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                              He’s crazy good at assimilating accents so a lot of people don’t realise. Here’s his real accent (apologies for the YouTube link).

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                                I think I'm really unusual in that I dislike almost everything after IV. I think the first film was brilliant, back when Lucas was fighting for money and had to rely on vision and had Campbell to advise with. After that it was all introducing cutesy characters strictly for marketing, they all lacked the charm of the original.

                                I know I'm an exception. Nearly everyone liked V and/or VI more. Everyone dunks on Jar Jar, but I could not stand the Ewoks. It was so disgustingly blatant.

                                At the time I was dying for sequels, and when they finally came I was so disappointed. You know, I think I just realized that it was the Vader/Luke connection that sunk it for me. That all of the major characters had to be related somehow made the universe smaller, and more petty. They only got worse after that; I think I watched all of I-III, but I actively hated those.

                                Anyway, I think there might have been a path, and I'm no story teller so I couldn't fix it, but I think the while thing went off the rails after IV.

                                Good friends have told me the Mandelorian was good, but "Baby Yoda" represents everything I loathed about the series and I refuse to watch it.

                                Anyway, what were you saying about the Hero's Journey? Maybe I should watch The Last Jedi, because while the Campbell formula worked for the first film, it didn't improve any of the sequels, so maybe I'd like it. As long as there are no obviously pandering character designs that exist clearly because they can easily be marketed as toys. Looking at you, BB-8.

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                                  The Last Jedi was an amazing deconstruction of Star Wars. I don't think better execution would have helped it with a fan base that wants to be stuck in the past reliving the hero's journey ad nauseam but it had a lot more potential than you see on screen.

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                                  Disagree. The first two sequels kept making a defeated bad empire stronger and stronger without any explanation. The rebels then suddenly became just 400 to 20 people. A different type of journey would have been welcomed with open arms if clever enough.
                                  And I think embracing the jedi, but killing the wars aspect, rather than trying to destroy the jedi but keeping the wars it would have been a much better answer to the franchise.

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                                    He’s crazy good at assimilating accents so a lot of people don’t realise. Here’s his real accent (apologies for the YouTube link).

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                                    his real accent sounds fake.... I almost don't believe it...

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                                      Hot take, “Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy”. The radio play, books and 80s bbc show were not represented very well at all. They missed well over 75% of the jokes, Mos Def and Zooey Deschanel added nothing to it, and they added plots and scenes, I think just to get more “blockbuster actors” in, that ruin the original story of the radio play. Sam Rockwell, Alan Rickman/Warwick Davis and Bill Nightly were the highlights. One of the few movies I wish they would remake.

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                                        A few favorites:

                                        • Constantine
                                        • The Last Jedi
                                        • Jupiter Ascending
                                        • Minority Report
                                        • Prometheus
                                        • Valerian
                                        • Logan's Run
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                                          Hot take, “Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy”. The radio play, books and 80s bbc show were not represented very well at all. They missed well over 75% of the jokes, Mos Def and Zooey Deschanel added nothing to it, and they added plots and scenes, I think just to get more “blockbuster actors” in, that ruin the original story of the radio play. Sam Rockwell, Alan Rickman/Warwick Davis and Bill Nightly were the highlights. One of the few movies I wish they would remake.

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                                          Sam Rockwell as Zaphod was spot on. He was the only one who actually read the books, and had to even tell the director to add "Froody" to the script. What a shitshow it must have been for the director not to know that....

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