China is Systematically Dismantling Tibetan Monastic Traditions
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Would that be worth taking away his autonomy and will without consent?
Wow congratulations, first real argument in any response I've received until now.
But they are not really taking away his autonomy by closing the monastery, they are only putting an end to a harmful practice that is illegal.
Now the part about harmful may be a matter of opinion. But personally I believe religious practices are mostly harmful.How is that not taking away autonomy? That's kind of literally the definition of. They aren't appealing for them to close the monastery on their own. They are forcing it.
You and I can both state plainly that the practices are harmful. And even justify the assertion. We would never subject ourselves to it by choice. But that's the thing it has to be a choice. Give them other choices other opportunities. That is absolutely fine.
But the moment you enact your beliefs upon others through violence. It doesn't matter if you are factually correct. You are no longer the "good guy". You've lost the argument. If you cannot make the case for it on merits alone.
There is a very good reason concepts of imperialism and colonization are frowned upon these days. Why you don't see many groups talking about going out and civilizing savages. These are the so-called "good intentions" that the proverbial road to Hell is paved with. The same sort of justification that they used to separate my grandmother from her family. And sent her to special schools. The kind that in many places often ended up with mass Graves of children.
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Now you are being stupid: What slaughtering is that?
The systematic control and surveillance of Tibetan monasteries by Chinese authorities represents one of the most calculated assaults on religious freedom in the modern world.
This is what it is about, and religious special pleading needs to fucking end. Especially when it's harmful to children. You can abandon a religion, it's not like for instance protection of nationality, gender or sex.
I'm talking about the Chinese people choosing to murder their own daughters at birth because the government attempted to implement strict population controls, and everyone wanted boys so they could make more money as adults.
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Crickets from the ML
china isn't marxist at all. western communists want a hero, but there just isn't one.
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I'm talking about the Chinese people choosing to murder their own daughters at birth because the government attempted to implement strict population controls, and everyone wanted boys so they could make more money as adults.
That's whataboutism and unrelated. Although I agree that was horrible.
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That's whataboutism and unrelated. Although I agree that was horrible.
Lmao. Sorry, calling it unrelated isn't going to make the world love China.
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That would depend on how I was treated; I asked for specifics on how children in monasteries are abused, but you didn't provide any, so I can't really pass judgement on that other than to say that I am against child abuse.
Are kids still being sent to monasteries? The article says it's illegal now. Of course, this doesn't negate any damage caused in the past, but it's now a crime.
I asked for specifics on how children in monasteries are abused,
Really? Are you sure you really want to go there?
Taken from their parents or abandoned, and forced to a life in religious insanity and celibacy?There is no way any sensible child care worker wouldn't take those children away.
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Lmao. Sorry, calling it unrelated isn't going to make the world love China.
Which I don't give a shit about, I'm just so fucking tired of people screaming about protecting harmful religious practices.
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So you have less of an idea about the subject than gonzo, who at least admits not knowing anything. Marvellous tankie specimen.
PS: The CCP sucks donkey dick.
PS: The CCP sucks donkey dick.
I absolutely agree, the only thing worse is religions and their harmful practices and child abuse.
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Which I don't give a shit about, I'm just so fucking tired of people screaming about protecting harmful religious practices.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Sorry that you're inconvenienced by people making too much noise, as small impotent men deploy the powers bestowed upon them by corporate technologies to destroy their entire way of life.
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China working to prevent indoctrination of children with superstitious religious practices that are harmful to the people practicing them.
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Funny how everybody is downvoting based on knee jerk reactions, while nobody acknowledge the harmful practices.
Always this special pleading for religious practices, that we would never accept in any other context.Never assume that mass downvoting in systems that allow up/down voting is organic when the subject matter is US foreign policy and stuff like articles that "thoughtfully" shit talk geopolitical adversaries. It's just a cheap way for fake consensus building, fake peer pressure etc. Tibet was a theocratic feudal kingdom before China ended that garbage, the kind of system that would make the KKK salivate.
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Crickets from the ML
I'm all for shitting on tankies but I'm unsure what part of an all-male divine birthright theocracy they're supposed to support?
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I'm all for shitting on tankies but I'm unsure what part of an all-male divine birthright theocracy they're supposed to support?
Say something bad about the ML
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china isn't marxist at all. western communists want a hero, but there just isn't one.
I know. I’m talking about the ML, not China. The ML are nowhere when China is dirty.
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One China and all. Oh other people exist? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee one China!
Ironically, most of the ML are from the USA
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I'm all for shitting on tankies but I'm unsure what part of an all-male divine birthright theocracy they're supposed to support?
They hate the West's genocides we bring on ourselves.. theirs are okay.
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Say something bad about the ML
They keep registering at other instances which makes blocking them all frustrating
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They keep registering at other instances which makes blocking them all frustrating
Yeah, I’m pretty sure there’s only like 5 of them and they’re really busy switching accounts. Occasionally they’ll forget to switch and comment as someone else using the same grammar and punctuation mistakes.
They just live in the US, hate the US, and got sucked into this fake communist thing where they simp for China and pretend to hate genocide—but only when it makes the west look bad. China can abuse the Uyghurs all day long because that’s “not happening”
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Superstition and kidnapping of children is not "culture".
Kidnapping?
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Religious superstition is not culture worth preserving.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I'm glad we have you to tell us what is and isn't culture worth preserving; we were at real risk of having a diversity of opinion for a moment there.
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Ironically, most of the ML are from the USA
Or other "western" nations. I've never knowingly met someone staunchly ml. That was from an area formerly or currently ml.
Talking to someone from China etc you generally will not hear them specifically shit on their government. Mostly because the government will come knocking and threatening violence as they did with Naomi. But you will catch them nervously deflecting to justifying it. Acknowledging it without speaking of it. Though even that could not save Naomi.
Hilariously Lemmy.ml is blocked in China. Where a lot of other Lemmy instances aren't strictly.
