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China is Systematically Dismantling Tibetan Monastic Traditions

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  • B [email protected]

    Now you are being stupid: What slaughtering is that?

    The systematic control and surveillance of Tibetan monasteries by Chinese authorities represents one of the most calculated assaults on religious freedom in the modern world.

    This is what it is about, and religious special pleading needs to fucking end. Especially when it's harmful to children. You can abandon a religion, it's not like for instance protection of nationality, gender or sex.

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    I'm talking about the Chinese people choosing to murder their own daughters at birth because the government attempted to implement strict population controls, and everyone wanted boys so they could make more money as adults.

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      Crickets from the ML

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      china isn't marxist at all. western communists want a hero, but there just isn't one.

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      • ogmios@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

        I'm talking about the Chinese people choosing to murder their own daughters at birth because the government attempted to implement strict population controls, and everyone wanted boys so they could make more money as adults.

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        That's whataboutism and unrelated. Although I agree that was horrible.

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        • B [email protected]

          That's whataboutism and unrelated. Although I agree that was horrible.

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          Lmao. Sorry, calling it unrelated isn't going to make the world love China.

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            That would depend on how I was treated; I asked for specifics on how children in monasteries are abused, but you didn't provide any, so I can't really pass judgement on that other than to say that I am against child abuse.

            Are kids still being sent to monasteries? The article says it's illegal now. Of course, this doesn't negate any damage caused in the past, but it's now a crime.

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            I asked for specifics on how children in monasteries are abused,

            Really? Are you sure you really want to go there?
            Taken from their parents or abandoned, and forced to a life in religious insanity and celibacy?

            There is no way any sensible child care worker wouldn't take those children away.

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            • ogmios@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

              Lmao. Sorry, calling it unrelated isn't going to make the world love China.

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              Which I don't give a shit about, I'm just so fucking tired of people screaming about protecting harmful religious practices.

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              • rustyfish@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                So you have less of an idea about the subject than gonzo, who at least admits not knowing anything. Marvellous tankie specimen.

                PS: The CCP sucks donkey dick.

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                PS: The CCP sucks donkey dick.

                I absolutely agree, the only thing worse is religions and their harmful practices and child abuse.

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                • B [email protected]

                  Which I don't give a shit about, I'm just so fucking tired of people screaming about protecting harmful religious practices.

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                  #37

                  Sorry that you're inconvenienced by people making too much noise, as small impotent men deploy the powers bestowed upon them by corporate technologies to destroy their entire way of life.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    China working to prevent indoctrination of children with superstitious religious practices that are harmful to the people practicing them.

                    Edit:
                    Funny how everybody is downvoting based on knee jerk reactions, while nobody acknowledge the harmful practices.
                    Always this special pleading for religious practices, that we would never accept in any other context.

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                    Never assume that mass downvoting in systems that allow up/down voting is organic when the subject matter is US foreign policy and stuff like articles that "thoughtfully" shit talk geopolitical adversaries. It's just a cheap way for fake consensus building, fake peer pressure etc. Tibet was a theocratic feudal kingdom before China ended that garbage, the kind of system that would make the KKK salivate.

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                      Crickets from the ML

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                      I'm all for shitting on tankies but I'm unsure what part of an all-male divine birthright theocracy they're supposed to support?

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                      • T [email protected]

                        I'm all for shitting on tankies but I'm unsure what part of an all-male divine birthright theocracy they're supposed to support?

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                        Say something bad about the ML

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                        • N [email protected]

                          china isn't marxist at all. western communists want a hero, but there just isn't one.

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                          I know. I’m talking about the ML, not China. The ML are nowhere when China is dirty.

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                          • eldritch@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                            One China and all. Oh other people exist? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee one China!

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                            Ironically, most of the ML are from the USA

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                            • T [email protected]

                              I'm all for shitting on tankies but I'm unsure what part of an all-male divine birthright theocracy they're supposed to support?

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                              They hate the West's genocides we bring on ourselves.. theirs are okay.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                Say something bad about the ML

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                                They keep registering at other instances which makes blocking them all frustrating

                                https://mander.xyz/comment/18955256

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                                  They keep registering at other instances which makes blocking them all frustrating

                                  https://mander.xyz/comment/18955256

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                                  Yeah, I’m pretty sure there’s only like 5 of them and they’re really busy switching accounts. Occasionally they’ll forget to switch and comment as someone else using the same grammar and punctuation mistakes.

                                  They just live in the US, hate the US, and got sucked into this fake communist thing where they simp for China and pretend to hate genocide—but only when it makes the west look bad. China can abuse the Uyghurs all day long because that’s “not happening”

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    Superstition and kidnapping of children is not "culture".

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                                    Kidnapping?

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                                    • B [email protected]

                                      Religious superstition is not culture worth preserving.

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                                      I'm glad we have you to tell us what is and isn't culture worth preserving; we were at real risk of having a diversity of opinion for a moment there.

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                                      • D [email protected]

                                        Ironically, most of the ML are from the USA

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                                        Or other "western" nations. I've never knowingly met someone staunchly ml. That was from an area formerly or currently ml.

                                        Talking to someone from China etc you generally will not hear them specifically shit on their government. Mostly because the government will come knocking and threatening violence as they did with Naomi. But you will catch them nervously deflecting to justifying it. Acknowledging it without speaking of it. Though even that could not save Naomi.

                                        Hilariously Lemmy.ml is blocked in China. Where a lot of other Lemmy instances aren't strictly.

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                                          And nothing of value was lost

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