Not for me, tho

[frunch@lemmy.world]

2 is overrate8d tbh 2bh

[theimpressivex@piefed.social]

It's 9 o'clock somewhere!

[tetris11@lemmy.ml]

Which language provides the most random alphabetically sorted sequence?

Data

|  N | Eng | Dut | Ger | Tur | Chi | Lex |
|----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----|
|  1 |   8 |   8 |   8 |   6 |   8 |   1 |
|  2 |  11 |   3 |   3 |   5 |   2 |  10 |
|  3 |   5 |   1 |   1 |   1 |   9 |  11 |
|  4 |   4 |  11 |  11 |   9 |   6 |  12 |
|  5 |   9 |   9 |   5 |   4 |   3 |   2 |
|  6 |   1 |  10 |   9 |   2 |   4 |   3 |
|  7 |   7 |  12 |   6 |  10 |   7 |   4 |
|  8 |   6 |   2 |   7 |  11 |  10 |   5 |
|  9 |  10 |   4 |   4 |  12 |  12 |   6 |
| 10 |   3 |   5 |  10 |   8 |  11 |   7 |
| 11 |  12 |   6 |   2 |   3 |   5 |   8 |
| 12 |   2 |   7 |  12 |   7 |   1 |   9 |

Sourced from comments in thread (English from image, Dutch from [email protected], German from [email protected] , Turkish from some rando, Chinese from [email protected], Lexicographical from [email protected])

Plot with Correlation Scores

We will compute the pearson correlation (r-statistic) score by comparing the base number (column 1) with the corresponding language column. We will also compute the Serial correlation, by creating staggered columns that measure how close a number is in a sequence to the one before it.

::: spoiler Staggered Table

cat alphabetic.tab \
    | awk '{print $0"\t"prE"\t"prD"\t"prG"\t"prT"\t"prC"\t"prL;prE=$2;prD=$3;prG=$4;prT=$5;prC=$6;prL=$7}' \
    | tee alphabetic.tab.stagger

:::

::: spoiler Plot Code

gnuplot -p -e '
  set xlabel "Base Sequence";
  set ylabel "Alphabetic";
  set xtics 1,1,12;
  set ytics 1,1,12;
  set title "Alphabetic Number Plot with Correlation Score";
  set rmargin 25; set key at graph 1.5,0.9;
  set size ratio 0.45;

  stats "alphabetic.tab.stagger" using 1:2 name "E";
  stats "" using 1:3 name "D";
  stats "" using 1:4 name "G";
  stats "" using 1:5 name "T";
  stats "" using 1:6 name "C";
  stats "" using 1:7 name "L";
  
  stats "" using 2:8 name "ES";
  stats "" using 3:9 name "DS";
  stats "" using 4:10 name "GS";
  stats "" using 5:11 name "TS";
  stats "" using 6:12 name "CS";
  stats "" using 7:13 name "LS";

  set label 1 sprintf("%10s  %6s  %6s", "", "Base", "Stagger") at graph 1.07,0.95;

  plot "" using 1:2 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "English", E_correlation, ES_correlation),
       "" using 1:3 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "Dutch", D_correlation, DS_correlation),
       "" using 1:4 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "German", G_correlation, GS_correlation),
       "" using 1:5 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "Turkish", T_correlation, TS_correlation),
       "" using 1:6 with lines lw 3 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "Chinese", C_correlation, CS_correlation),
       "" using 1:7 with lines lw 1 title sprintf("%10s  %+.3f  %+.3f", "Lexicon", L_correlation, LS_correlation)
'

:::

It looks like Dutch has the lowest (near 0) correlation to both the base sequence and it's own staggered sequence, with Turkish mirroring it's staggered randomness somewhat.

The least random alphabetic sequences are English and German.

---

Updated: Added chinese and staggered analysis.

[ddplf@szmer.info]

Is it a meme or a riddle?

[infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

If it makes you feel better I did the same lol

[gerryflap@feddit.nl]

What lack of logic? The numbers on the clock are sorted based on the alphabetical order when they're spelled out in English. Just like with a real clock, the top number is the highest, not the lowest. That seems quite logical to me

[jaybone@lemmy.zip]

You put a lot of work into this.

[gerryflap@feddit.nl]

I was equally confused initially, but then I looked at the clock in my house and realized that the number up top is the highest number, 12, and not 0. So the first number in the ordering is at the position of the 1 of a normal clock.

[featherconstrictor@sh.itjust.works]

Thank you for doing and sharing this

[icelimit@lemmy.ml]

I still don't understand how acht=12

[vinny_93@lemmy.world]

Ah no I started at one. You can transpose my list by one and set zeven as 12.

[idealotus@lemmy.world]

Transliterating from Mandarin Chinese and using English dictionary order

Ba Er Jiu Liu Qi San Si Shi ShiEr ShiYi Wu Yi

8 2 9 6 3 4 7 10 12 11 5 1
八 二 九 六 三 四 七 十 十二 十一 五 一

[communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz]

Interestingly it would be right twice a day

[rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world]

acht=12

Gesundheit.

[vrojak@feddit.org]

I recently found out that javascript's .sort() function, when called without arguments on an array of numbers, converts them all to strings and sorts them alphabetically

[electrictrombone@lemmy.world]

I'm a C programmer. My first time writing Javascript and ran into some sort of bug involving a === sign or something. Javascript is a silly language.

[rentlar@lemmy.ca]

I'd think four times:
4:20, 4:35, 7:20, 7:35

[red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Just a silly joke, I guess.

[communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz]

I'm stupid and read the clock wrong and didn't check even a little.

[humorlessrepost@lemmy.world]

Javascript lets you compare unlike types without extra steps using ==. If you want strict comparison where “2” isn’t 2, use === and !==. Personally, I find that easier than having to parseint or cast every damn thing or whatever c does (strtol?). That said, I have build tools set up to enforce strict comparison because I don’t trust myself or others.