Did PewDiePie Just Crack the Code for How to Present Libre Software?
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You're platforming a genuine nazi. Shut.
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He said the N word on stream, in a "heated gamer moment". I have never ever said that word in private or otherwise, leading me to believe that is not his first time or last.
He paid poor people in India on fiver to hold a sign saying "kill the jews"
In his apology video he wore a shirt with a fucking iron cross on the collar.
He is a Nazi and to continue to hem and haw about whether he is or isn't is exactly what crypto fascist losers like him want you to do.
PewDiePie is a Nazi. Stop carrying water for Nazis.
He also used to follow a ton of open white supremacist NAZIS on Twitter like Laura Southern and that guy who got punched in the face. People screenshotted it and he noticed and privated his follows. That was many years ago. But you don't follow open Nazis if you're just some gamer dude (if he was some sort of respectable journalist you could have an excuse of having a newsworthiness angle but he followed them because he liked their posts because he is a NAZI).
I think he's more greedy than committed to bringing about Nazi goals so is somewhat careful about not exposing too much of that part of himself but he's part of the white supremacist gamergate to white supremacist streamers pipeline and should be called a Nazi until they day he 1) admits he was a Nazi, 2) disavows that. 3) disavows other Nazi gamer streamers who exist in his "edgelord space" 4) becomes openly progressive and goes out of his way to denounce and attack fascists and white supremacy. Until that day he should be assumed to still be a Nazi.
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I used to watch him years ago. He has a very young and impressionable audience which he constantly feeds memes with right-wing rethoric.
To list a few of the stuff I remember:
- He said the N word hard R;
- He paid people on Fiverr to show a sign saying "Death to all Jews" or something like that, where he laughed at the reveal. He said it was to prove a point that you could do harmful shit with that type of online service, but all it ended up doing was getting the guys banned from the platform and served to signal to Nazis that he would host such content;
- He allowed right-wingers to fester in his community, 4chan specially really liked the guy;
- He hosted both Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk in his channel for a "meme review";
- He has stated multiple times that his favorite author is Mishima, a Japanese fascist, not only in the past, but also in the last year at least;
- He used to stream on some crypto bullshit site, which I don't remember the name;
- His whole campaign against the Indian conglomerate T-Series lead not only to racist comments but also to a very racist music video he did;
- The Christchurch shooter mentioned him in a video. And while being mentioned by a shooter doesn't necessarily mean he's an issue, in this case it's extremely relevant since it's pretty clear that is a byproduct of his politics and the community he has.
There's probably much more that I either don't remember or don't know about, but this is more than enough to understand where he stands politically and the harm he causes.
I also recommend the video: The PewDiePipeline.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]- He used to follow (probably still does) open white supremacists and Nazis of the Richard Spencer/Lauren Southern type and got called out for it and privated his follows on twitter. That was many years ago but given he's never done a u-turn and say started attacking gamergate and other reactionary gamer politics or loudly supporting broad coalition progressive politics I think we can assume he still holds those politics and more importantly he dog whistles and is part of a pipeline of radicalizing young men, specifically gamers into hate.
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You're platforming a genuine nazi. Shut.
yeah I had been wondering about that. has he done more nazi shit since making people say "Hitler was right" and Holocaust denial shit on fiver?
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yeah I had been wondering about that. has he done more nazi shit since making people say "Hitler was right" and Holocaust denial shit on fiver?
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are you fr rn
"Well, the nazi hasn't done [extremely nazi shit] after public backlash without apology. So he's not a nazi lol"
Please touch grass
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I see a few people keep saying that, but how so? What has he done that's neo Nazis like? Not that I follow the guy or what he does so I may be missing things but the only controversy I can remember that could be considered Nazis like was when he paid some fiver people to make a video saying death to all Jews.
Now I get how that could be considered Nazi like but he said it was a joke and to show that people will do anything for money, and I believe him and thought the joke was funny. So I guess I'm a neo nazi too if that's it. Obviously it's a "bad" joke but but it was shocking in a funny way, atleast to me at the time. Given you're from hexbear I figured you'd find it funny too
Look at my other post in this thread but also fuck you.
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"Keep moving the goalposts"?
Mate this is my first comment in this comment chain.
And it does make a difference to me personally if someone said something before a very public turnaround 5 years ago, or recently after this changelmfao
Mate this is my first comment in this comment chain
"in this comment chain" being the operative part, as if people don't have eyes to see you've been doing the same bullshit in this thread.
said something before a very public turnaround 5 years ago,
lmfao when this was started it was how could you possibly think he thought or believed anything bad, now it's before several years ago when he definitely for real changed all his views just don't ask me to name what those views are after I keep demanding everyone else provide evidence, next it'll be "but did he say it literally last week???"
Just shut the fuck up and learn to not be so pathetic. Fucking hell.
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Mate, did "the left" eat your brain that much that you blame completely different person for things they didn't do?
Imagine thinking you did anything with this response besides shit your pants then trip landing head first in the toilet bowl.
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Yeah that wasn't a great moment, but if you look at the context for that you'll see that it wasn't even talking about a black person. It was just an expletive, like saying "motherfucker" or "son of a bitch" etc.
Keep in mind that outside of USA the N word is not nearly as charged politically and racially as it is within the USA. And PDP is Swedish IIRC, not American.
Edit: my point is that his usage of that word - which AFAIK only happened once - is not indicative of his character. It's just indicative that he was really angry at that moment and human brains for some reason use expletives in those cases.
he had a heated gamer moment
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Yes because in this case it's relevant. You are right that being mentioned by a bad person is not necessarily proof of anything. But like I said, in this case it is connected to the content and community that PewDiePie has.
Then you should say that.
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I'm not saying that right means freedom but what makes you think that left means freedom?
Progressive idealogies espouse freedom for all not simply those with money.
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The challenge is that we're not just selling software, we're selling an idea - the idea that users deserve control over their computing. We're not competing on the proprietary software marketplace, we're offering an alternative to it.
We are already seeing the proprietary software world enshittify. More and more "non-tech" people are looking for a way out. The challenge is to demonstrate that these problems are inherent to the world of proprietary software and not just because "Google is evil."
Sure it's a challenge, but it's not necessary for getting people to use the software. One does not require the other, but it is a gateway to being able to do that.
It is self-evident that free software with open licensing and no strings attached is a superior and more beneficial ownership model than closed source paid licensing. That part I don't think anyone needs to be convinced of.
It's just not necessary to make that one of your core beliefs, or add several others, before using the software.
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The fact that PewDiePie might have a right-leaning following, that he acquired by himself leaning right, which he now exposes to Freedom, using Libre Software, might actually be a good thing. Since exposing yourself to the philosophy of Free Software eventually leads to human rights and thus to the left, in a way. If PewDiePie course-correcting to the left like this, taking his enormous subscriber-base with him, IMO it is very good.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The problem with this is that it leaves left-leaning people using tech companies and slick, highly-produced products as status items. iphones and macbooks are still solid left-leaning status objects.
Also, the right doesn't mind being scrappy and using janky, poorly configured crap if it appears to meet their agenda. Nearly every right-leaning social media platform is either a platform with a Mastadon backend, or some early 2000's style forum.
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The fact that PewDiePie might have a right-leaning following, that he acquired by himself leaning right, which he now exposes to Freedom, using Libre Software, might actually be a good thing. Since exposing yourself to the philosophy of Free Software eventually leads to human rights and thus to the left, in a way. If PewDiePie course-correcting to the left like this, taking his enormous subscriber-base with him, IMO it is very good.
Didn't do that for me, still believe in human rights and don't embrace the left wing. I believe in the freedom to make contracts with people without the government telling you that your profits are too high or whatever the left wing is pushing for
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Nazis are everywhere, not just OSS. Never seen one in OSS though
Lunduke?
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Maybe the fact that the left supports improved working rights, unionisation, free education, equality of opportunities and between nations, freer borders for people...
Equality of opportunities for blacks and Latinos means discrimination for Asians. And people here wonder why Trump won votes from people who are not white men
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Sure it's a challenge, but it's not necessary for getting people to use the software. One does not require the other, but it is a gateway to being able to do that.
It is self-evident that free software with open licensing and no strings attached is a superior and more beneficial ownership model than closed source paid licensing. That part I don't think anyone needs to be convinced of.
It's just not necessary to make that one of your core beliefs, or add several others, before using the software.
It is self-evident that free software with open licensing and no strings attached is a superior and more beneficial ownership model than closed source paid licensing. That part I don't think anyone needs to be convinced of.
As someone who has both technical and nontechnical people in their family, I call bs. Even if it is partially self-evident (in the fact that you dont need to sign into an account or pay for it), the details, and more importantly the weight, of FOSS is often lost on people.
I've had to watch some of them walk into a rake and bruise their foreheads several times over before really absorbing it.
It's something people need to really read up on before true comprehension. That, or get burnt really really badly.
Ideology? Politics? Tomato tomatoh in my eyes. At the very least, they're nearly inseperable (think: DMCA, copyright law, etc.)
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Oh you even got the iWarning lol
What's this warning thing? (for those of us far outside of the Apple ecosphere)
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The fact that PewDiePie might have a right-leaning following, that he acquired by himself leaning right, which he now exposes to Freedom, using Libre Software, might actually be a good thing. Since exposing yourself to the philosophy of Free Software eventually leads to human rights and thus to the left, in a way. If PewDiePie course-correcting to the left like this, taking his enormous subscriber-base with him, IMO it is very good.
Idk. There's already plenty of right wingers (libertarians) in FLOSS spaces. I'd hate to see any more.
