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What old technology are you surprised is still in use today?

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  • L [email protected]

    Gas stoves. Yeah, real smart to use a source of pollution inside your home. Electric ranges have been available for decades. Recently available induction stoves are like magic. Yet people cling to cooking with fire.

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    I like cooking with fire. Temperature changes (especially reduction of heat) are much faster than resistive electric, and when cooking on an unfamiliar stove, it's easy to tell what's going on; I don't have to guess what "6" means on a dial because I can look at the fire and see.

    Both the awareness that gas stoves are a significant source of pollution (mostly nitrogen oxides) and availability of induction are fairly recent and not universally distributed. I'd accept the pollution for a better cooking experience than resistive electric, but induction is pretty compelling all things considered.

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    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

      When I was a child I thought houses would look drastically different in the future. They in fact do not.

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      George jetson house, what they thought the future would look like in 1960:

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        I live in a country with abhorrently unreliable electricity.

        Even now that I have solar and even if I mostly (85%+) cook on a plug-in resistance hob and electric oven, gas is just unbeatable as a backup during the winter. No sun? Grid down? Milk boiled over and got into the hob’s thermostat? Need to cook more than one pot at a time? Israel decided to bomb a fucking residential substation for no reason again? Power company operator decided to accidentally pull an epic prank and route the wrong voltage to everyone’s house, frying a whole town’s fridges, during a year when people couldn’t afford to replace them (I can’t find an English article to link but I promise this happened)? No problemo

        I also got a plug-in induction infrared plate and while it is pretty much magical it also makes my inverter shit itself uncontrollably (all my LED lights flicker and it makes an uncomfortable noise) so I really only use it when the ”good” grid is on (the bad one can’t handle it, the good one is the one from the prank above).

        You can pry my backup butane from my cold dead hands. I replace the tank less than once a year, it’s fine. Not everyone who wants this option to stay is a regressive cultist.

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        Can you get a battery to handle the unstable input and output nicely since there's a buffer?

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          Can you get a battery to handle the unstable input and output nicely since there's a buffer?

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          I do have an oversized battery buffer. Most people are discouraged from cooking or using any resistive load on the batteries, but I opted to invest in a bigger battery backup specifically to be able to do that, it’s why I said 85%+ and not like 40%. The battery buffer really is the point of this system, having 24/7 electricity in my home that I can pull over 20 amperes out of at the drop of a hat is without a question the most decadent luxury I have ever experienced. That’s not something I can just hook up to my house.

          If I reconnect the grid-charging circuit, it is more than enough in the winter months nowadays (the grid was down more often in 2020-2023). But that gets really expensive, and relying on the grid is not wise.

          If I use the secondary (mafia) grid more frequently (as I did in 2020-2023 out of necessity) I can pull a tiny amount of amps at an extortionate kWh rate, that’s enough to keep things like the fridge and lights and the water pump running. But turn on one hot plate or accidentally use the microwave, turn on the heater to the wrong setting (or the AC to the right setting but at the wrong time) and you have to cover up to get to the freezing street to switch the breaker back on. Sounds obnoxious? Well pre-solar that was the only option for 12+ hours of the day. I remember going down to flip the breaker over twenty times one day as a kid.

          Let’s not get into the water situation. I just spent a weekend grappling with neighbors and floater valves.

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          • F [email protected]
            1. Vasectomies (+ birth control pills)
            2. animal testing for human research.
            3. I'm sure that anyone working in a hospital can cough up a few dozen more.

            RISUG has been invented in 1978,
            is reversable, cheaper, zero side effects,
            and with so far 0% failure rate when implemented properly,
            Vasalgel, an improvement on RISUG by having a longer shelf-life,
            has been invented around 2015.

            So this stuff has been invented in the same year as the first Star Wars movie,
            had gone through all trials multiple times with flying colors,
            and instead we use knives and pills with large side effects.

            If any invention could be been ubiquitous in use at a much earlier stage,
            then this would be it.
            It could and should have been widely used by the 1980's.

            For animal testing we have 3D printed human tissue.
            So why test on animals if your question is "Does this stuff work on human tissue?"
            The answer you'll be getting is whether or not it works on mice.
            Mice are not human.

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            As I was thinking of getting a vasectomy, you got me curious. But it is still in clinical trials according to Wikipedia

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm_under_guidance

            For the animal trials: we could cut them down by a lot, but experimenting on tissue is not the same as on a full body and its complex system.

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            • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

              When I was a child I thought houses would look drastically different in the future. They in fact do not.

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              I thought houses would look drastically different in the future

              I'm only impressed to learn that the houses for sale in this area for 1.8m are 110 years old and 110x as expensive as when built.

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                Rat traps

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                  Microwave because it is an old tech that was so ahead of its time...
                  If it didn't exist and was invented today it would be such a hit!
                  Personally I believe it was invented by aliens or a time traveler.

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                  • L [email protected]

                    Correct me if I’m wrong but fax isn’t end to end encrypted so how is it deemed more secure than email which also isn’t end to end encrypted (by default).

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                    Probably a case of legislative inertia and tried-and-true practices. It's also a thing that's mostly limited to the US, I feel like. I want to say many other Western countries have digital systems in place (maybe not the BEST digital systems, but something better than fax).

                    Fax is not end-to-end encrypted. Not even sure it's encrypted in transit. But it is also something that doesn't rely on a third party provider storing all your data indefinitely and then losing it all in a data breach. Of course, that doesn't stop people from hooking up to a virtual fax service that might store info on a server... but still...

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                    • K [email protected]

                      As I was thinking of getting a vasectomy, you got me curious. But it is still in clinical trials according to Wikipedia

                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm_under_guidance

                      For the animal trials: we could cut them down by a lot, but experimenting on tissue is not the same as on a full body and its complex system.

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                      Risug is in trials forever.

                      It's very likely to have been
                      deliberately held back for decades now
                      by a true conspiracy and for petty reasons.

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