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systemd has been a complete, utter, unmitigated success

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    I'd say the main bad part of systemd is how it's used and now expected everywhere.

    If you search for some Linux guides or install something complicated or whatnot, they always expect you to have systemd. Otherwise, you're on your own figuring how things work on your system.

    This shouldn't really happen. Otherwise, yes, it's great, it integrates neatly, and is least pain to use.

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    There is no authority delegating responsibilities of writing tutorials for Linux. It is the responsibility of nobody and everybody. If you can't find one for your problem, write it yourself when you have figured it out.

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      I'm over here still using OpenRC. Mostly because I want to. Some servers I run have systemd on them. systemd is generally nice. OpenRC has finally gained the ability to run user services, which is also very nice.

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        I totally agree.

        I hate to admit I didn't want anything to do with systemd because it took me forever to get somewhat familiar with some other mainstream init systems.

        Then, I didn't care for a while until I developed software that had to keep running using some sort of init system. The obvious choice was whatever the default I had (systemd) and I fell in love with the convenience of systemd (templates, timers, ..). I started shipping sample systemd with the things I provide & yes, you are on your own if you use something else.

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          There is no authority delegating responsibilities of writing tutorials for Linux. It is the responsibility of nobody and everybody. If you can't find one for your problem, write it yourself when you have figured it out.

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          Sure, but I can't single-handedly create an entire knowledge base on doing everything with X, so it's a real and big limitation.

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            I'd say the main bad part of systemd is how it's used and now expected everywhere.

            If you search for some Linux guides or install something complicated or whatnot, they always expect you to have systemd. Otherwise, you're on your own figuring how things work on your system.

            This shouldn't really happen. Otherwise, yes, it's great, it integrates neatly, and is least pain to use.

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            In my opnion, systemd is like core-utils at this point.

            It's so integrated into most things and the default so many places, that most guides assume you have it.

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              Sure, but I can't single-handedly create an entire knowledge base on doing everything with X, so it's a real and big limitation.

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              If you think so and that this is important, maybe you could be the one that makes it happen. Start a project and gather like-minded people. That is how Linux, FOSS and community driven efforts operate. It's useless to complain that nobody else makes the effort if you have the capabilities but can't be arsed making an attempt yourself.

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              • projectmoonP projectmoon

                I'm over here still using OpenRC. Mostly because I want to. Some servers I run have systemd on them. systemd is generally nice. OpenRC has finally gained the ability to run user services, which is also very nice.

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                dinit also has the ability to run user services, FWIW.

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                  Unrelated but how do people feel about the ai images when used for something like this.

                  The font is very telling for being DallE

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                    Unrelated but how do people feel about the ai images when used for something like this.

                    The font is very telling for being DallE

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                    I strong hate these imagines with a piss tint. I can't stand them. And the text has these tiny AI-flavoured imperfections too.

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                      I strong hate these imagines with a piss tint. I can't stand them. And the text has these tiny AI-flavoured imperfections too.

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                      The 'recreated' photorealistic thumbnails on youtube are even worse, IMHO -- especially when they involve subtly warped faces of familiar people.

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