China is the lesser evil.
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Oh, I've mostly stopped arguing with tankies. I'm just trolling a little at this point.
I appreciate that but if you troll them with dumb takes and bad faith arguments, you are only strengthening their views and making them look smarter
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"If you don't love America, you can geeeeeet ouuuuut".
Modern liberals are just Bush era conservatives
Why do you make this about america?
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Lol, you literally couldn't even wait for them to respond before trying to get your come back in
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I appreciate that but if you troll them with dumb takes and bad faith arguments, you are only strengthening their views and making them look smarter
making them look smarter
I doubt that's possible. Just have a look at the newest answer to my comment, apparently this is about america now despite me being german on a german instance and just suggesting to "go there" and not "leave [country]". Everyone here must be 'murican I guess.
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Westerners
TIL the Chinese people on Weibo that originally created and spread the meme are "Westerners".
Oh boy, look at what rather unfortunately named character they compared President Obama to! I bet if we were evil imperialists we'd claim that was intentional and a disgusting example of racism. Can you imagine the kind of person who would make such a bad-faith argument?
Good thing we're not like those guys, eh comrade?
If conservatives (and only conservatives) were always calling Obama "Tigger" obsessively at every junction, and referencing that picture as justification, would you believe them? Or would you say recognise that they were just being racist.
Because thats how I feel when I see western liberals doing this and trying to claim they're just referencing a meme from before half of them were even in primary school
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Stopped reading after the first sentence
Of course you did, liberals cannot allow their minds to be corrupted by opposing views
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It is funny how you guys always becomes complete fans of the "lesser evil". As if it is not actually considered the "lesser evil" by you, but "the absolute best and most fantastic thing that exists".
You mean like how Kamala Harris was the lesser evil that noone ever should criticize for any reason?
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Ergo propter hoc. Nice try though.
I'm begging you people to stop just reading off random Latin phrases from the Wikipedia logical fallacies page because you saw people doing it on Reddit and think they're magic incantations that you can cast to win arguments
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Are you applying it as a negative to libs? If so, then my reply stands. You created an argument via propter hoc… and it should be discarded. If you intended something different them you should reword your argument to something more substantial than “libs choose less sucky thing so they should like China.”
You created an argument via propter hoc… and it should be discarded
Fallacy fallacy. Nice try though.
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If China is so great, why does it have so many billionaires?
The fact that that number is decreasing even while it's overall wealth is increasing is more than you'd ever see in the West
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Of course you did, liberals cannot allow their minds to be corrupted by opposing views
Heard one tankie ramble on about their worthless bullshit ideology, heard them all. Literally no diffenence between this shit and MAGA shit except MAGA wants to suck Trump's dick and you guys want Putin and Xi. Other than that you people spew the same kind of logic-resistant sludge. It's not that I haven't seen what you guys are about, I have seen it and deemed it void of any value. Miss me with that.
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Why do you make this about america?
Point stands for the West in general. It's all American vassels anyway
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Heard one tankie ramble on about their worthless bullshit ideology, heard them all. Literally no diffenence between this shit and MAGA shit except MAGA wants to suck Trump's dick and you guys want Putin and Xi. Other than that you people spew the same kind of logic-resistant sludge. It's not that I haven't seen what you guys are about, I have seen it and deemed it void of any value. Miss me with that.
Heard one tankie ramble on about their worthless bullshit ideology, heard them all.
Funny, thats how I feel about BlueMAGA liberals like you.
no diffenence between this shit and MAGA
Ok, so you haven't even listened to even one of them then.
MAGA shit except MAGA wants to suck Trump’s dick and you guys want Putin and Xi.
Liberals will always break out the homophobia when pressed.
Other than that you people spew the same kind of logic-resistant sludge.
Look in the mirror, mate.
It’s not that I haven’t seen what you guys are about, I have seen it and deemed it void of any value. Miss me with that.
Given that you can't actually engage with it beyond the same generic insults literally anyone could apply to any ideology (conservatives could and do just as easily describe you as spewing logic resistant sludge and being gay, so it doesn't mean anything).
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Point stands for the West in general. It's all American vassels anyway
Suuuure.
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Suuuure.
People will complain about .ml users being toxic and then act like this
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People will complain about .ml users being toxic and then act like this
No. They didn't. Not a single lemmy user has ever claimed this. Not ever. You are lying. You are openly lying and you know it.
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Yeah man, that's much worse than anything the West is doing....
Do you people hear yourselves?
what do you mean by your question?
when we experience their abuses firsthand, what should have we heard? they make people work against their will in the illegal gambling centers and online scamming sites they operate, kill our wildlife by the boatloads by importing our protected species for their medicine, or are the biggest drug lords in the country resulting to the deaths of many, what should have we heard?
i acknowledge that the Ph has problematic ties with the US for decades. but at the present, the Chinese government and Chinese criminal organizations are giving us more problems.
*edit: inserted 'and'
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what do you mean by your question?
when we experience their abuses firsthand, what should have we heard? they make people work against their will in the illegal gambling centers and online scamming sites they operate, kill our wildlife by the boatloads by importing our protected species for their medicine, or are the biggest drug lords in the country resulting to the deaths of many, what should have we heard?
i acknowledge that the Ph has problematic ties with the US for decades. but at the present, the Chinese government and Chinese criminal organizations are giving us more problems.
*edit: inserted 'and'
@[email protected]what do you mean by your question?
I'm wondering how you can possibly find yourself writing that China is worse than the West because they harrass fishing boats in a minor naval territory dispute and not realise how absurd that is.
when we experience their abuses firsthand
Do you think nobody experiences the abuses of the West first hand? Do you think other people aren't real?
people work against their will in the illegal gambling centers online scamming sites they operate, kill our wildlife by the boatloads by importing our protected species for their medicine, or are the biggest drug lords in the country resulting to the deaths of many, what should have we heard?
You probably should have heard any news from the West in the last few decades? "Oh yeah, exterminating two million people in Gaza isnt great, but China runs online scamming sites!"
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what do you mean by your question?
I'm wondering how you can possibly find yourself writing that China is worse than the West because they harrass fishing boats in a minor naval territory dispute and not realise how absurd that is.
when we experience their abuses firsthand
Do you think nobody experiences the abuses of the West first hand? Do you think other people aren't real?
people work against their will in the illegal gambling centers online scamming sites they operate, kill our wildlife by the boatloads by importing our protected species for their medicine, or are the biggest drug lords in the country resulting to the deaths of many, what should have we heard?
You probably should have heard any news from the West in the last few decades? "Oh yeah, exterminating two million people in Gaza isnt great, but China runs online scamming sites!"
I'm wondering how you can possibly find yourself writing that China is worse...
i didnt. i didnt write that China is the worse evil? have it occured to you that they are equally evil to us who have been invaded by these nations?
i acknowledge that we also have problems with the US. our history is riddled with that. we also have been victims of abuses from Japan during the war, which they dont recognize. in the present, many of our problems from the outside come from China. like the countless lives lost because of their drug syndicates here.
or are you saying that the dead Filipinos are less important because not as many have died compared to Gaza? because to me, both are unfortunate.
thats why i cant think of China as the lesser evil. yes, even counting all the astrocities of the western world that you pointed out. because China is as evil as them.
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I'm wondering how you can possibly find yourself writing that China is worse...
i didnt. i didnt write that China is the worse evil? have it occured to you that they are equally evil to us who have been invaded by these nations?
i acknowledge that we also have problems with the US. our history is riddled with that. we also have been victims of abuses from Japan during the war, which they dont recognize. in the present, many of our problems from the outside come from China. like the countless lives lost because of their drug syndicates here.
or are you saying that the dead Filipinos are less important because not as many have died compared to Gaza? because to me, both are unfortunate.
thats why i cant think of China as the lesser evil. yes, even counting all the astrocities of the western world that you pointed out. because China is as evil as them.
just because i dont think agree that China is the lesser evil does not mean that i am pro US. that is such a narrow-minded take.have it occured to you that they are equally evil to us
That's just as absurd. Be serious; if China were to exterminate your entire country, would you say that that's no worse than what they currently do? Because that's what the west does and is doing.
or are you saying that the dead Filipinos are less important because not as many have died compared to Gaza?
Yes, less people dying is not as bad as more important dying, that should go without saying. If the Filipino government has killed a single person, does that make it as bad as the Holocaust?
because to me, both are unfortunate.
And one is vastly more "unfortunate". (I would say horrific and monstrous, but sure "unfortunate").
thats why i cant think of China as the lesser evil.
Then I cannot count the Filipines as a lesser evil to the Nazis; if proportionality means nothing and all evils are equal, then you are as evil as the Nazis.
just because i dont think agree that China is the lesser evil does not mean that i am pro US.
If you believe of the far worse atrocities of the US do not make it worse than China, then yes, you are pro US, because you have a double standard that favours them.
