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  • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ This user is from outside of this forum
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    China is the lesser evil.

    Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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    • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

      China is the lesser evil.

      Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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      Go to China then and be happy.

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        Go to China then and be happy.

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        I'm in the belly of the beast.

        Right where I need to be.

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        • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

          I'm in the belly of the beast.

          Right where I need to be.

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          Lol, sure.

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            I'm in the belly of the beast.

            Right where I need to be.

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            Google tiananmen square and comment a screenshot

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              Google tiananmen square and comment a screenshot

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              • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                China is the lesser evil.

                Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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                Younger maybe, but not sure if lesser.

                I remember reading a Chinese translation of Open Veins of Latin America, the translator asked a Chinese entrepreneur for his opinion about Europeans exploiting Latin America, the reaction was “well we are just late to this game”.

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                • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                  China is the lesser evil.

                  Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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                  Perfectly balanced 😌

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                  • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                    China is the lesser evil.

                    Don't you liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil?

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                    Ergo propter hoc. Nice try though.

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                      Literally Orientalism.

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                      • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

                        Google tiananmen square and comment a screenshot

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                        Cool racist meme. DuckDuckGo okay?

                        https://imgur.com/a/A6KoO3y

                        That said, China's firewall has been vindicated by the plague of fake news and propaganda that lead to the election of Trump. When you allow the internet to go unfiltered, corporate and far right interests will fucking destroy it and fill it with lies to manipulate the masses. Do I need to remind you of the time Facebook triggered an ethnic cleansing campaign?

                        And our media is still being censored! It's just that our censorship is the market forces that promote certain messages and suppress other messages. So far right talk shows get promoted, while Colbert gets canceled.

                        Is google today after what the free market has done to it?

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                        • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                          Ergo propter hoc. Nice try though.

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                          Post hoc ergo propter hoc is an informal fallacy that states "Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X."

                          What the hell does that have to do with China being the lesser evil?

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                            Younger maybe, but not sure if lesser.

                            I remember reading a Chinese translation of Open Veins of Latin America, the translator asked a Chinese entrepreneur for his opinion about Europeans exploiting Latin America, the reaction was “well we are just late to this game”.

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                            A random Chinese entrepreneur isn't really representative of China?

                            Maybe China will prove it's just as evil as the West, but it hasn't so far. Insisting it inevitably will is just speculation, because the Chinese development banks that loan to the third world are less evil than the IMF/World Bank, and the Belt and Road initiative is less evil than Western free trade agreements.

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                            • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                              Post hoc ergo propter hoc is an informal fallacy that states "Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X."

                              What the hell does that have to do with China being the lesser evil?

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                              Your premise is that China is the lesser evil, therefore liberals should support China because (whatever reason you decided because liberals). Though I do appreciate you looking up the argument to understand it. It’s not a perfect analogy, but close enough.

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                                Cool racist meme. DuckDuckGo okay?

                                https://imgur.com/a/A6KoO3y

                                That said, China's firewall has been vindicated by the plague of fake news and propaganda that lead to the election of Trump. When you allow the internet to go unfiltered, corporate and far right interests will fucking destroy it and fill it with lies to manipulate the masses. Do I need to remind you of the time Facebook triggered an ethnic cleansing campaign?

                                And our media is still being censored! It's just that our censorship is the market forces that promote certain messages and suppress other messages. So far right talk shows get promoted, while Colbert gets canceled.

                                Is google today after what the free market has done to it?

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                                Stopped reading after the first sentence

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                                • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                                  Literally Orientalism.

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                                  Orientalism is quite the broad stroke, generalising quite a bunch of very diverse cultures. You are wandering dangerously close to racism here, buddy.

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                                    Literally Orientalism.

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                                    I thought Winnie the Pooh was orientalist?

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                                      Your premise is that China is the lesser evil, therefore liberals should support China because (whatever reason you decided because liberals). Though I do appreciate you looking up the argument to understand it. It’s not a perfect analogy, but close enough.

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                                      Because liberals believe in supporting the lesser evil within their own nations. Am I wrong?

                                      I'm just applying that same principle internationally.

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                                        I thought Winnie the Pooh was orientalist?

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                                        i.e. Westerners portraying Xi as a yellow animal

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                                          i.e. Westerners portraying Xi as a yellow animal

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                                          A bear not an animal.

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