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  • T [email protected]

    I made a video about copyparty, the selfhosted fileserver I've been making for the past 5 years.

    The main focus of the video is the features, but it also touches upon configuration. Was hoping it would be easier to follow than the readme on github... not sure how well that went, but hey ๐Ÿ˜„

    This video is also available to watch on the copyparty demo server, as a high-quality AV1 file and a lower-quality h264.

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    Put out some in-depth docker instructions and this will be common use in a month. Good work.

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    • T [email protected]

      I made a video about copyparty, the selfhosted fileserver I've been making for the past 5 years.

      The main focus of the video is the features, but it also touches upon configuration. Was hoping it would be easier to follow than the readme on github... not sure how well that went, but hey ๐Ÿ˜„

      This video is also available to watch on the copyparty demo server, as a high-quality AV1 file and a lower-quality h264.

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      I'll have to say that this is about one of the most detailed instructions I've seen, replete with copious screenshots. I'm going to have to give it a go just based on that. LOL

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      • L [email protected]

        Thank you so very much. I needed to transfer some files locally yesterday and didn't have a NAS set up. So I thought I would quickly set up a samba share on my pop-os media server so my spouse (windows) and I (mint) could swap/store files on the fly in the future. It took me 25 minutes and I almost gave up because my config file was having issues.

        This looks sooooo much nicer. May every road rise up to meet you

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        I would add PairDrop to your list to have bookmarked. It's completely web-based so no download required and thus fully cross-platform. It also works across different networks (i.e. over the internet) by pairing devices or creating a room. Basically Apple AirDrop, but universal and on steroids.

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          I would add PairDrop to your list to have bookmarked. It's completely web-based so no download required and thus fully cross-platform. It also works across different networks (i.e. over the internet) by pairing devices or creating a room. Basically Apple AirDrop, but universal and on steroids.

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          Bookmarked, thanks. I'll have to try them all out at some point and see what works quickest. Obviously the storage aspect of the poster is a different ball game, but out and about this sounds useful

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          • D [email protected]

            I looked at the comparison for Seafile as that's the one I'm most familiar with. In my opinion Seafile's greatest strength is its encryption, but in your comparison you seem to see this as a negative as I assume this bullet refers to the encryption? "isolated on-disk file hierarchy, incompatible with other software. much worse than nextcloud in that regard"

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            the intention with that statement was that seafile, by default, places all the files inside its own proprietary file container thing, where the files are not easily accessible from the server's actual filesystem, using regular linux utilities. My knowledge of seafile is really minimal, so this could be wrong -- in which case I'll fix that right away! or, at the very least, try to clarify what I meant to avoid this confusion.

            in case you happen to know -- are you aware if it's possible to use Seafile while having it just place all the files and folders on the disk like any other program would?

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            • K [email protected]

              Put out some in-depth docker instructions and this will be common use in a month. Good work.

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              Yup, I tried to run the docker image with the suggested docker command and it errored out for lack of a config file (though it did offer a fix in the logs for mounting the current directory as read/write)

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              • T [email protected]

                the intention with that statement was that seafile, by default, places all the files inside its own proprietary file container thing, where the files are not easily accessible from the server's actual filesystem, using regular linux utilities. My knowledge of seafile is really minimal, so this could be wrong -- in which case I'll fix that right away! or, at the very least, try to clarify what I meant to avoid this confusion.

                in case you happen to know -- are you aware if it's possible to use Seafile while having it just place all the files and folders on the disk like any other program would?

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                @tripflag @disobey2623 Your statement is correct; the way seafile stores files is in blocks (for de-duplication, apparently).

                They offer a fuse extension that allows you to view stuff like a normal filesystem, though I've never tried it: https://manual.seafile.com/latest/extension/fuse/

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                • T [email protected]

                  I made a video about copyparty, the selfhosted fileserver I've been making for the past 5 years.

                  The main focus of the video is the features, but it also touches upon configuration. Was hoping it would be easier to follow than the readme on github... not sure how well that went, but hey ๐Ÿ˜„

                  This video is also available to watch on the copyparty demo server, as a high-quality AV1 file and a lower-quality h264.

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                  I bumped into copyparty the other month when looking for a software that could let me transfer files to a friend with the ability to pause/resume. Didn't bother with it, tried another software instead. Never really got it to work so I gave up on it.

                  Bumped into the YouTube video today, decided to give copyparty a shot, damn sir you've written a fine piece of software. It's so easy to get up and configure. The UI is a bit janky, but charming at the same time. Thanks for all the hard work!

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                  • suzune@ani.socialS [email protected]

                    Just a remark from someone who runs ZFS since the beginning. Many people don't like the deduplication feature because of its memory footprint.

                    It's also nice to have this feature without relying on a certain filesystem.

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                    I assume you mean automatic deduplication? I haven't used ZFS, but BTRFS does not have that. There are a variety of ways to perform deduplication, I have duperemove scheduled to run regularly.

                    If ZFS is still capable of being instructed to perform deduplication when automatic deduplication is turned off, which it really should be able to do, then this should work even with it turned off.

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                    • T [email protected]

                      I made a video about copyparty, the selfhosted fileserver I've been making for the past 5 years.

                      The main focus of the video is the features, but it also touches upon configuration. Was hoping it would be easier to follow than the readme on github... not sure how well that went, but hey ๐Ÿ˜„

                      This video is also available to watch on the copyparty demo server, as a high-quality AV1 file and a lower-quality h264.

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                      Wo wo wow, is that my man JC Denton ??

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                        Wo wo wow, is that my man JC Denton ??

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                        "There are two editors in case you hate one of them"

                        You crack me up !!!

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                        • T [email protected]

                          I made a video about copyparty, the selfhosted fileserver I've been making for the past 5 years.

                          The main focus of the video is the features, but it also touches upon configuration. Was hoping it would be easier to follow than the readme on github... not sure how well that went, but hey ๐Ÿ˜„

                          This video is also available to watch on the copyparty demo server, as a high-quality AV1 file and a lower-quality h264.

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                          this looks amazing! (from the youtube video. also the controls/features seem to be well thought-through) i'll give it a shot tomorrow

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                          • sxan@midwest.socialS [email protected]

                            Are China Parties like Tupperware Parties, where friends get together and one shills a pyramid scheme? That's what CP is, right?

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                            no, CP is copypasta, the thing you put into your food boxes.

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                            • T [email protected]

                              I made a video about copyparty, the selfhosted fileserver I've been making for the past 5 years.

                              The main focus of the video is the features, but it also touches upon configuration. Was hoping it would be easier to follow than the readme on github... not sure how well that went, but hey ๐Ÿ˜„

                              This video is also available to watch on the copyparty demo server, as a high-quality AV1 file and a lower-quality h264.

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                              This looks great, nothing to check it out.

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                              • dojan@pawb.socialD [email protected]

                                I bumped into copyparty the other month when looking for a software that could let me transfer files to a friend with the ability to pause/resume. Didn't bother with it, tried another software instead. Never really got it to work so I gave up on it.

                                Bumped into the YouTube video today, decided to give copyparty a shot, damn sir you've written a fine piece of software. It's so easy to get up and configure. The UI is a bit janky, but charming at the same time. Thanks for all the hard work!

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                                "It's janky. It's charming. It works. It's Copyparty." ยฎ

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  I made a video about copyparty, the selfhosted fileserver I've been making for the past 5 years.

                                  The main focus of the video is the features, but it also touches upon configuration. Was hoping it would be easier to follow than the readme on github... not sure how well that went, but hey ๐Ÿ˜„

                                  This video is also available to watch on the copyparty demo server, as a high-quality AV1 file and a lower-quality h264.

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                                  Ho... Ly... Shit... This is great! The UI is a bit confusing at first but doesn't take long to get what's going on. I might even be disappointed with a UI revamp ๐Ÿ˜ I can't believe how much functionality this has. It's already replacing some processes I have for mounting drives and backing up files. Maybe I missed something, but my only complaint would be the lack of an automatic one-way folder sync in the Party UP! app.

                                  I'm blown away, great job!

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    The fact you mention security features, without ever saying it's 'super secure' tells me you know a lot about what you're doing. I'm so sick of apps like this that start with "most secure app on the net" but you know they're delusional. Thank you, going to check this out.

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                                    so uhh, sorry for the late response to this -- was going to reply much earlier, but then suddenly it became more timely than ever...

                                    the good news is, I'm fairly confident in how it handles the filesystem and permissions, preventing unauthorized access to files.

                                    but the part I'm a bit less sure about is sanitizing user data; the kind of vulnerabilities where someone uploads a malicious file and bad stuff happens if you then open that file in a certain way, or someone sends you a malicious link and trick you into clicking it -- in other words, the kind of vulnerabilities which require the attacker to have a certain level of access already, or that requires tricking you into doing something.

                                    ...and with version 1.18.5 released just now, we got a prime example of exactly one of those. Really unfortunate timing, but it's a blessing to have so many new and curious eyes on it to spot these sooner rather than later. It is what it is.

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                                    • T [email protected]

                                      sooo this is one of the things that started with someone saying "wouldn't it be funny if..."

                                      if you open copyparty-sfx.py in a text editor, you'll see how -- but please make sure to use an editor which is able to handle about 600 KiB of comments which contain invalid utf8 / binary garbage ๐Ÿ˜

                                      I ended up rolling my own packer since I wanted optimal encoding efficiency, and everything I could find would do stuff like base85 or ucs2 tricks, but it turns out python is perfectly happy with binary garbage in comments if you declare that the file is latin-1 so it realizes all hope is lost ๐Ÿ˜„

                                      the only drawback of the sfx.py is that it needs to extract to $TEMP before running, so that's the slight advantage of the zipapp (the .pyz alternative), but that suffers from some performance reduction in return, and is more hermetic (doesn't let you swap out the bundled dependencies with fresh versions as easily if necessary)

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                                      Why not use zipapp?

                                      https://docs.python.org/3.13/library/zipapp.html

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                                        @tripflag @disobey2623 Your statement is correct; the way seafile stores files is in blocks (for de-duplication, apparently).

                                        They offer a fuse extension that allows you to view stuff like a normal filesystem, though I've never tried it: https://manual.seafile.com/latest/extension/fuse/

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                                        And obviously, encrypted folders can't be accessed through the file system even with the fuse add on, because that would break the whole point of encryption.

                                        To me, the one big advantage Seafile has is its e2e encryption and encrypted folders, as it allows me to host it externally without allowing access to my files to the server administrator.

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          I made a video about copyparty, the selfhosted fileserver I've been making for the past 5 years.

                                          The main focus of the video is the features, but it also touches upon configuration. Was hoping it would be easier to follow than the readme on github... not sure how well that went, but hey ๐Ÿ˜„

                                          This video is also available to watch on the copyparty demo server, as a high-quality AV1 file and a lower-quality h264.

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                                          I see flake.nix, i install.

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