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    So I can cover a song and distribute it, right? Right??

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    No, but you can learn it

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      True but it is only legal if you are a multi billion dollar company that could have paid for it, but didn't choose so.

      If you can't afford it you should rot in Guantanamo for ever!

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        No, but you can learn it

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        So then I guess I can learn the song, write down the notes from memory, and play that cover. It's all gone through a neural network and so it's all fine, right?

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          My dyslexia turned that into post ironic brain and that works too

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          I like post-ironic. That's when satire doesn't work any more because real life is worse.

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            Well, someone had to say it, so here I go:

            inhales

            If piracy isnt owning, then buying isn't stealing?

            wait i messed it up

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            • J [email protected]

              True but it is only legal if you are a multi billion dollar company that could have paid for it, but didn't choose so.

              If you can't afford it you should rot in Guantanamo for ever!

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              It's also ok if you are using it in an effort to make workers obsolete and upend the entire economy.

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                It's also ok if you are using it in an effort to make workers obsolete and upend the entire economy.

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                Yeah. Thats good. All law violations excused to do that. Also you get all the water if you're trying.

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                  Well, someone had to say it, so here I go:

                  inhales

                  If piracy isnt owning, then buying isn't stealing?

                  wait i messed it up

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                  A+ for effort lol

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                    When laws do not work for most of the people is it worth following in the first place?

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                      I don't know if it's different in the US, but here the downloading isn't punished, it's the sharing that gets you in trouble.

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                        Courts will say "no, that's not what we meant by that" and will slap you silly.

                        AI companies aren't on the side of copyright reform or abolition, they just want an exception for themselves so they can keep doing whatever they're doing now. (And they also want more IP laws to cover the current grey areas, so they can stop pretending to give a damn about open models)

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                          I don't know if it's different in the US, but here the downloading isn't punished, it's the sharing that gets you in trouble.

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                          Our government allows ludicrous control to rights holders. I don't own any copies of movies, for example, even discs. Disney owns the physical discs. I just have them in my home. I own the right to play the discs in certain ways. I'll bet policies will be updated to clarify that Disney doesn't approve of, "training AI".

                          But it's the same here. If you aren't actively doing anything that upsets rights holders, they'll leave you alone.

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                            No, but you can learn it

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                            So, don't release albums, release tutorials?

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                              Our government allows ludicrous control to rights holders. I don't own any copies of movies, for example, even discs. Disney owns the physical discs. I just have them in my home. I own the right to play the discs in certain ways. I'll bet policies will be updated to clarify that Disney doesn't approve of, "training AI".

                              But it's the same here. If you aren't actively doing anything that upsets rights holders, they'll leave you alone.

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                              What country?

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                                Courts will say "no, that's not what we meant by that" and will slap you silly.

                                AI companies aren't on the side of copyright reform or abolition, they just want an exception for themselves so they can keep doing whatever they're doing now. (And they also want more IP laws to cover the current grey areas, so they can stop pretending to give a damn about open models)

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                                The post isn’t a sound legal argument, but it is an ethical one.

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                                  So then I guess I can learn the song, write down the notes from memory, and play that cover. It's all gone through a neural network and so it's all fine, right?

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                                  So, I memorized all the binary digits in the waveform of a Metallica song and wrote it down from memory.

                                  Unfortunately I've got a bad memory so I had to do them one digit at a time, but technically I didn't copy anything, I only wrote down my own memories, right? Also, my handwriting is worse than my doctor's so I chose to write it on a computer.

                                  The funniest thing happened when I accidentally opened this text file in Winamp. It almost sounded like music, except that the drums were played like shit.

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                                    What country?

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                                    US. Apologies, edited before posting and removed that key piece of information.

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                                      They spent a lot of money and political capital to train their AI just for it to get leaked back to the masses.

                                      If only every AI company scraping the internet would have their model be given back to the people. It's the minimum they could do.

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                                        The post isn’t a sound legal argument, but it is an ethical one.

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                                        Yeah, well, Law and Ethics are two separate things which - very rarely these days - seem to cross each other. This is known.

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                                          The Suyu Emulator is an open-source, Nintendo Switch emulator built to run on Windows, Android, iOS and Linux devices. https://suyuemulators.net/

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