Seriously what's that idea?
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Final conclusion, no offence:
Blocking is rather useless in the Fediverse, unless you submit to complete ignorance.wrote last edited by [email protected]That's mostly true; it's optimized for wide dissemination of information, and the idea of keeping a specific person from seeing information that's shown to the rest of the world isn't very compatible with that. It doesn't really work on Reddit or web forums that are visible without logging in either since a person you've blocked can still view your posts anonymously.
A bit more looking brings me to the ActivityPub spec. Your server should tell the blocked user's server about the block, and the blocked user's server shouldn't allow them to interact with your posts or comments (that doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to see your posts or comments).
The thing is, in network protocol documents, should means the behavior is optional. Fediverse software doesn't have to support blocks at all according to the protocol.
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
wrote last edited by [email protected]It... Makes perfect sense?
YOU blocked them. They didn't block you.
It's like when you were a kid and told to ignore the kid bullying you; except that it actually works.
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It... Makes perfect sense?
YOU blocked them. They didn't block you.
It's like when you were a kid and told to ignore the kid bullying you; except that it actually works.
I love you, but I hate you!
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Why would you want to read a comment by someone you've blocked, and why would you want to upvote, downvote, or report a comment that you haven't read?
Ask yourself that question when it's about time.
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if so many of the sane users block the same nutjobs, then there won’t be anybody to downvote or refute those nutjobs
Don't worry, a lot of us never block anybody, specifically so we can do exactly that.
i used to do that, but my sanity suffered, now i block liberally
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
wrote last edited by [email protected]Because neener-neener & too bad so sad?
Seriously, though, you shouldn't get to decide for everyone who to censor.
Just because you don't want to see it doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
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Ask yourself that question when it's about time.
I have on occasion unblocked people just to see what was in a thread. I've never really been glad that I did so. I blocked them for a reason. I shouldn't want to engage with their posts. I'm happier and it makes things more calm when I'm not fighting with morons over shit anyone can see is wrong.
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I think the way it works is good.
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If the blocked user browses on another account (or not logged in at all), they can’t tell that you have blocked them.
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Bot/spam accounts can’t use the blocking system to stop users who target these accounts to call them out on their disguised malicious behavior. This became a problem on Reddit when they changed their blocking system away from what we have here.
Edit: I guess there is a downside of if so many of the sane users block the same nutjobs, then there won’t be anybody to downvote or refute those nutjobs
But the nut job will be stuck in his own bubble unable to talk to everyone, which is more sane than engaging them
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But they can still mock you without you witnessing.
What if someone is posting nonsense and you want to refute them? You want to silence others.
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Thank you for explaining to me why I didn’t like blocking but couldn’t express why.
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Blocks work the way you want them to on Reddit. And all it did was allow people with fringe political beliefs and misinformation fetishes to stop decent people from refuting them. This is for the best.
It also makes Lemmy objectively less safe because it's much less effective at limiting stalking and harassment. Especially since way blocks work on Lemmy isn't clearly communicated to the user.
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But they are leaving you alone
But they're really not though, if they're commenting on your post, whether or not you can see it
Technically, that's still leaving YOU alone. They're just talking behind your back. And people I've blocked probably have, but I don't know and I don't care. I don't need to silence others to stop listening to them.
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But they are leaving you alone
But they're really not though, if they're commenting on your post, whether or not you can see it
wrote last edited by [email protected]When you have blocked someone, and they comment on your post, do they come to your front door and start yelling?
Are they standing across the road with a large, vulgar sign?
Do you get a phone call?
Do you in any way get notified?
Can you even see their comment?
If you answer "no" to the above, then you are left alone. They are no longer your concern. If you're still concerned, then that's a problem in your head.
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
Here's how I frame it to myself: that person is basically screaming into the void after I block them. Sure, other people on here can see what they wrote, but 99.9% of them won't care or remember. I was their "intended target" and I'll never see their stupid comment. If it makes you feel any better, I've noticed a lot of troll types really hate being blocked and complain about it fairly regularly. You blocked them, you won the peace of them no longer existing for you.
Also, if you've blocked them for being obnoxious, others probably have, too.
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But they can still mock you without you witnessing.
Oh no! The potential that someone is mocking me, behind my back, without me witnessing or knowing it, really keeps me awake at night!
I mean, really. If you've gone so far as to block someone, do you even care that they're mocking you?
If so, why? And are you aware that someone can mock you, or spread crap about you behind your back, without explicitly needing the ability to comment on your threads?
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
Hopefully people migrating from lemmy to Piefed eventually fixes a lot of these core issues.
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My experience is, I see that there's a comment, I can't read it, I can't upvote or downvote it, and I couldn't report it, wonderful!
wrote last edited by [email protected]What you are asking for is closer to something like being able to personally ban another user from all your own content.
This would be more like if you made all your comments and posts in your own personal community, and then banned a user from it.
This, your suggested paradigm, can also be entirely defeated by someone just... making another account.
Or even: Logging out, and viewing as a guest.
Closer to message board styled systems are not twitter, are not instagram.
If you wanna try to develop something like a 'private profile' mode for lemmy, where you would have to grant access to every individual user you wanted to be able to see your posts and comments, good luck, go for it, code's open source, best I can tell, all dev work on it is unpaid, volunteers.
I am reasonably confident this is basically impossible given how lemmy is architected, but hey, maybe I'm wrong.
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What I'd really like is if comment downvotes were public.
Edit: Thanks to Optional, here are the users who downvoted this comment (also lists users who upvoted).
You just have to enable it in your client, presuming your instance supports it.
On Voyager it’s in Settings -> Appearance -> Other -> Display Votes -> Separate.
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They shouldn't be able to do that!
My only gripe is that the blocked comment’s replies are also not visible. I want to see what everyone else is saying, even if they’re replying to a blocked user. I just don’t care what the blocked user says.
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Some users would write their reply and then quickly block the other person so their points couldn't be contested.
