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Remember, some different-than-them folks looking for fundamental rights and common decency was all it took to get 70 million people angry enough to vote in a dictator

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    Disingenuous tweet. Not like the other side was committing a genocide and normally just acts like republican lite

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    • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

      Are you asking for a summary of the last decade of Minnesota state politics that shows Martin ran fair primaries which resulted in progressive Dems getting majorities?

      I would love this summary if there is one.

      The only thing I had heard about the DNC leadership was them electing a progressive to vice chair on "accident" and then kicked him out after they realized he would be supporting progressive canidates

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      You’re thinking of Vice Chair David Hogg.

      Hogg pledged to primary ineffective democrats and the party crucified him for it. Current chair Ken Martin opposed this, proposing a change to bylaws that would require impartiality in primaries.

      I am firmly with Hogg on this. Progressives need to be supported and conservative Democrats purged. Republicans with a D next to their name are no less an existential threat than those with an R. I don’t see Ken Martin as promising in any way whatsoever.

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        This is a dumb narrative that leads to petty bickering while we are currently living under literal fascism. The reason they elected a fascist is because they desire change from the status quo. Pronouns are not a positive change for most people. So of course they will pick a fascist over that platform, if that's all it has to offer. The left has to get real, and I mean realpolitik. We have real solutions to offer these people. That's what the message should focus on. Inclusion is a given with leftism. DEI is corporate virtue signaling.

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        agree, the inclusion movement went too far into dictating how people should behave and cancelling people on the basis of any perceived offenses and that gave electoral leverage to the current president

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          This is such a counterproductive take. It ignores why Harris actually lost (like Biden running again and refusing to step down until the end), while also implying that the Democrats didn't do anything wrong whatsoever and the fault lies with the electorate. If that's the takeaway for the DNC from this past election then we're cooked.

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            Last I checked, most people who voted for trump voted for him because they actually thought he would fix the economy. Only a fringe cares about identity politics.

            While I personally believe people who voted for trump were naive at best, it is very disingenuous to pretend like they all voted for him because they hate trans people. Most normal people don't give a fuck about that shit. They just want to live and considering how chaotic the election was for the democrats, it makes sense that more people put their trust in the candidate who was there from the start.

            It's a very boring answer, and it is not really an excuse for the current state of the US, but reality is often a lot duller than whatever narrative we like to cook up in our little heads after spending too much time on Twitter.

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              Why do americans think this is ww3? They are not the world and I really hope they will be ok their own with this war.

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                This is such a counterproductive take. It ignores why Harris actually lost (like Biden running again and refusing to step down until the end), while also implying that the Democrats didn't do anything wrong whatsoever and the fault lies with the electorate. If that's the takeaway for the DNC from this past election then we're cooked.

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                It also implies that Harris wouldn't attack Iran when she totally would have. A more correct approach would have been that ww3 for the Democrats is more preferable than worker rights and social institutions Bernie wanted.

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                  Why do americans think this is ww3? They are not the world and I really hope they will be ok their own with this war.

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                  Russia invading Ukraine. Israel attacking Iran. India attacking Pakistan. Nazi America threatening to annex Greenland.

                  Sure buddy, it's 'just' America involved here.

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                    It also implies that Harris wouldn't attack Iran when she totally would have. A more correct approach would have been that ww3 for the Democrats is more preferable than worker rights and social institutions Bernie wanted.

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                    in what world do you think she would have?

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                    • sundray@lemmus.orgS [email protected]

                      Ah, but withholding my vote means my soul is pure and I don't own these consequences!

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                      The fact that there's a mob of downvotes from white lily cowards says it all.

                      American puritans, shut the fuck up.

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                        This community is cooked. The most popular response is that trans rights had fuck all to do with democrats losing, but they are all getting down voted to hell.

                        If we had the election again today trump would win by more votes, clearly.

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                        • doom@ttrpg.networkD [email protected]

                          in what world do you think she would have?

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                          Why do you think she wouldn't? She and her party showed in recent years they will do anything Israel orders them.

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                            This community is cooked. The most popular response is that trans rights had fuck all to do with democrats losing, but they are all getting down voted to hell.

                            If we had the election again today trump would win by more votes, clearly.

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                            If there's one unifying maga principle it's bigotry.

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                              Why do americans think this is ww3? They are not the world and I really hope they will be ok their own with this war.

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                              Hey just a reminder: NONE of the world wars started because they all got up on the same day and started shooting each other.

                              If you get to point and laugh a year from now about how you were right and we were wrong, be thankful for it. Right now we've got a lot of individual active armed conflicts, often overlapping with others, including the fucking Middle East (you might want to peek at some of the history there). If we don't already meet the technical criteria for a world war, we're a half a step away.

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                                This is a dumb narrative that leads to petty bickering while we are currently living under literal fascism. The reason they elected a fascist is because they desire change from the status quo. Pronouns are not a positive change for most people. So of course they will pick a fascist over that platform, if that's all it has to offer. The left has to get real, and I mean realpolitik. We have real solutions to offer these people. That's what the message should focus on. Inclusion is a given with leftism. DEI is corporate virtue signaling.

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                                I don't support fascism buuut

                                Thanks for proving the point of the meme.

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                                  I don't support fascism buuut

                                  Thanks for proving the point of the meme.

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                                  I don’t support fascism but we need a real plan to defeat it.

                                  Thanks for not paraphrasing the whole post so you could make yourself seem sooooo virtuous and good by comparison. You failed miserably but you sure did try!

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                                    Last I checked, most people who voted for trump voted for him because they actually thought he would fix the economy. Only a fringe cares about identity politics.

                                    While I personally believe people who voted for trump were naive at best, it is very disingenuous to pretend like they all voted for him because they hate trans people. Most normal people don't give a fuck about that shit. They just want to live and considering how chaotic the election was for the democrats, it makes sense that more people put their trust in the candidate who was there from the start.

                                    It's a very boring answer, and it is not really an excuse for the current state of the US, but reality is often a lot duller than whatever narrative we like to cook up in our little heads after spending too much time on Twitter.

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                                    Your first paragraph is patently untrue the entire right wing media ecosystem is nothing but identity politics grievances and culture war bs

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                                      This is a dumb narrative that leads to petty bickering while we are currently living under literal fascism. The reason they elected a fascist is because they desire change from the status quo. Pronouns are not a positive change for most people. So of course they will pick a fascist over that platform, if that's all it has to offer. The left has to get real, and I mean realpolitik. We have real solutions to offer these people. That's what the message should focus on. Inclusion is a given with leftism. DEI is corporate virtue signaling.

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                                      there was plenty of things besides pronouns that dems had to offer. like boosting new homeowners and offering incentives to new families having babies. racism and misogyny overruled it though. "i'm gonna ban all muslims and mexican are rapists!" won out.

                                      America is looking at the proverbial mirror and realizing its full of racist, morons and people who think women can't lead; and no amount of 'well Kamala and Clinton didn't get me excited and offer me anything' will excuse that.

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                                        Can't prove a negative, but it's not like US policy towards Iran (or Israel) changes much from admin to admin. Here's Kamala right before the election saber rattling: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/08/harris-iran-greatest-adversary-trump-election.html

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                                        “What we need to do to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to be a nuclear power, that is one of my highest priorities,” she added.

                                        This is crazy... the illusion of choice? Nah we'd at least have better protections on domestic rights if she won

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                                          in what world do you think she would have?

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                                          “What we need to do to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to be a nuclear power, that is one of my highest priorities,” she added.

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