Italy to require VPN and DNS providers to block pirated content
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How exactly will they force compliance for companies not based in Italy, or even the EU?
Making something illegal and actually stopping it are two different things. Also see: drugs.
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Can’t you just vpn to another vpn ?
I’m not an expert on internet security but I do know there is no way in hell to legislate around blocking internet. Even China’s great firewall isn’t working.
I guess by passing legislation like this you get most people to be compliant, but this is about pirates, who were already actively non compliant in the first place.
The folks who pirate the content are literally going to have to click one extra button or something like that to work around the vpns trying to block stuff…
Take this with a grain of salt, I am by no means qualified to say anything on this topic with total certainty.
All a VPN does is encrypt traffic between you and the VPN. The VPN Hub you're connected to has to unencrypted your outbound traffic, fulfilling those requests, and then encrypting inbound traffic back to you. A VPN obscures traffic by allowing you to make your requests from a different location, where thousands of others also do it, all while hiding who is making any requests it fulfills, and hiding your activity from your ISP with encryption. A good VPN will also not keep logs of anything it does, and will have options to connect to Hubs outside of five eyes countries.
This would mean that while the VPN might not know who is making what requests, they would know what those requests are, so they could blacklist illegal content. All this to say a VPN >VPN >VPN > VPN still has a final VPN that has to make the request, and they will know where the request is going and what its for. But unless that final VPN company or Hub is actually inside of Italy they have no jurisdiction.
The real problem with this method is A) who determines what is blacklisted B) How do you enforce this blacklist C) How do you make the blacklist grow as fast as pirates spread out. This is a stupid law that wouldn't do anything even if the entire world got on board.
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I've been pirating a long time. Not once have I been inconvenienced by any anti-Piracy measure. There's always another way around.
Having to find a way around is an inconvenience.
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Having to find a way around is an inconvenience.
lol not really. Not a single piracy measure I've ever come across was anything more than a 3-5 minute Google fix away.
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By banning and blocking all VPN providers not based in Italy.
Sounds like a possible violation of EU rights. Similar practices have cost other governments dearly in the past.
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there is proxies, which arnt vpn they will just switch to those.
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Can’t you just vpn to another vpn ?
Won't even have to. Just use any VPN provider outside of Italy that doesn't have to comply with Italian law. lol.
mullvad doesn't know where you live nor do they care.
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Imagine stuffing so much cash in the butt of a rich guy, only to look how other, most likely better earners than you, play against each others using a tiny ball.
I don’t get sports fanatics…
I don’t get sports fanatics…
Most people just want to watch a match of their home town/favourite team maybe once a week. This is very moderate, what's so bad about that? However in order to do that they either have to either spend an absurd amount of money to get access to all matches, or spend a bit less money to play lottery and hope the match they wanted to watch gets selected.
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Why tf are countries with a suffering middle and lower classes targeting them especially?
To squeeze one more monthly subscription out of them?
To just make then skip the culture they can't afford? -
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lol not really. Not a single piracy measure I've ever come across was anything more than a 3-5 minute Google fix away.
Yep
It's like when YouTube finds a way to show you an ad, and then you go to ublock and update filters and boom fixed.
Oh no Italy is requiring something unenforceable, hopefully nobody from other countries ignores this and provides VPN access unhindered.
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Yep
It's like when YouTube finds a way to show you an ad, and then you go to ublock and update filters and boom fixed.
Oh no Italy is requiring something unenforceable, hopefully nobody from other countries ignores this and provides VPN access unhindered.
In the nicest possible way, what you're both describing are minor inconveniences.
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I've been pirating a long time. Not once have I been inconvenienced by any anti-Piracy measure. There's always another way around.
Even North Korea can’t stop pirating completely.
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“Italian organized crime groups receipts have been estimated to reach 7–9% of Italy's GDP.”
But I guess pirating books is a more pressing problem.
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In the nicest possible way, what you're both describing are minor inconveniences.
You seem very intent on convincing multiple people we are more inconvenienced than we feel.
I think you are missing the feeling of smug superiority that comes from defeating the feeble multi-million dollar attempts to punish us...with 5 mouse clicks. So on the surface level it might be an inconvenience, but you step into the actual activity and boom, we're telling these dumbasses to fuck off. And that's fun.
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So will the Italian government provide an Official List of Pirated Content or do the VPN providers need to determine it manually?
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Why tf are countries with a suffering middle and lower classes targeting them especially?
To squeeze one more monthly subscription out of them?
To just make then skip the culture they can't afford?Because they don't fight back unlike the billionaires who threaten to take jobs away / donate to their political rivals, the criminals who blackmail or threaten bodily harm (since this is Italy we're taking about), and the individuals who fall into both categories.
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So will the Italian government provide an Official List of Pirated Content or do the VPN providers need to determine it manually?
[Speculation]
They'll probably get a list of hashes from major copyright holders. So the biggest torrents won't work, but you'll still be able to pirate small-time artists.
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Tor essentially
Tor is bad for piracy because it's designed for low bandwidth applications. Maybe I2P?
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“Italian organized crime groups receipts have been estimated to reach 7–9% of Italy's GDP.”
But I guess pirating books is a more pressing problem.
Not if you're MetaFace it isn't.
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[Speculation]
They'll probably get a list of hashes from major copyright holders. So the biggest torrents won't work, but you'll still be able to pirate small-time artists.
But the individual network packets are usually at most 1500 byes long, and applications encrypt the content. Hashing doesn't prevent jack squat. It's more likely to be DNS + IP blocks
