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Italy to require VPN and DNS providers to block pirated content

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  • X [email protected]

    lol not really. Not a single piracy measure I've ever come across was anything more than a 3-5 minute Google fix away.

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    #61

    Yep

    It's like when YouTube finds a way to show you an ad, and then you go to ublock and update filters and boom fixed.

    Oh no Italy is requiring something unenforceable, hopefully nobody from other countries ignores this and provides VPN access unhindered.

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      Yep

      It's like when YouTube finds a way to show you an ad, and then you go to ublock and update filters and boom fixed.

      Oh no Italy is requiring something unenforceable, hopefully nobody from other countries ignores this and provides VPN access unhindered.

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      In the nicest possible way, what you're both describing are minor inconveniences.

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        I've been pirating a long time. Not once have I been inconvenienced by any anti-Piracy measure. There's always another way around.

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        Even North Korea can’t stop pirating completely.

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          “Italian organized crime groups receipts have been estimated to reach 7–9% of Italy's GDP.”

          But I guess pirating books is a more pressing problem.

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            In the nicest possible way, what you're both describing are minor inconveniences.

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            You seem very intent on convincing multiple people we are more inconvenienced than we feel.

            I think you are missing the feeling of smug superiority that comes from defeating the feeble multi-million dollar attempts to punish us...with 5 mouse clicks. So on the surface level it might be an inconvenience, but you step into the actual activity and boom, we're telling these dumbasses to fuck off. And that's fun.

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              So will the Italian government provide an Official List of Pirated Content or do the VPN providers need to determine it manually?

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                Why tf are countries with a suffering middle and lower classes targeting them especially?

                To squeeze one more monthly subscription out of them?

                To just make then skip the culture they can't afford?

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                Because they don't fight back unlike the billionaires who threaten to take jobs away / donate to their political rivals, the criminals who blackmail or threaten bodily harm (since this is Italy we're taking about), and the individuals who fall into both categories.

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                  So will the Italian government provide an Official List of Pirated Content or do the VPN providers need to determine it manually?

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                  #68

                  [Speculation]

                  They'll probably get a list of hashes from major copyright holders. So the biggest torrents won't work, but you'll still be able to pirate small-time artists.

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                    Tor essentially

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                    Tor is bad for piracy because it's designed for low bandwidth applications. Maybe I2P?

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                    • B [email protected]

                      “Italian organized crime groups receipts have been estimated to reach 7–9% of Italy's GDP.”

                      But I guess pirating books is a more pressing problem.

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                      Not if you're MetaFace it isn't.

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                      • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

                        [Speculation]

                        They'll probably get a list of hashes from major copyright holders. So the biggest torrents won't work, but you'll still be able to pirate small-time artists.

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                        But the individual network packets are usually at most 1500 byes long, and applications encrypt the content. Hashing doesn't prevent jack squat. It's more likely to be DNS + IP blocks

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                        • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

                          [Speculation]

                          They'll probably get a list of hashes from major copyright holders. So the biggest torrents won't work, but you'll still be able to pirate small-time artists.

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                          How would a hash help? The dns just gives you info to resolve the destination, not the content.

                          They would need to map the trackers most likely

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                          • T [email protected]

                            You seem very intent on convincing multiple people we are more inconvenienced than we feel.

                            I think you are missing the feeling of smug superiority that comes from defeating the feeble multi-million dollar attempts to punish us...with 5 mouse clicks. So on the surface level it might be an inconvenience, but you step into the actual activity and boom, we're telling these dumbasses to fuck off. And that's fun.

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                            I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, for some reason some people just want to ignore the meaning of words. I'm not saying anyone feels super inconvenienced either, like I said they're minor inconveniences, but they're there and they grow.

                            Frankly I couldn't care less about sticking it to the man, I've been around the scene for 30 odd years at this point and I don't think that's ever been a motivator for me. I do like things that make it more convenient, more reliable and increase selection - I don't like things that make it more difficult, no matter how small.

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                              Because they don't fight back unlike the billionaires who threaten to take jobs away / donate to their political rivals, the criminals who blackmail or threaten bodily harm (since this is Italy we're taking about), and the individuals who fall into both categories.

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                              Yes.

                              But billionaires fighting back is just issuing an order for someone professional to do so in their behalf, themselves risking basically nothing.

                              Middle and lower classes need to do to work, do their chores, fight stress, organise, research, maybe take a loan to pay for legal costs, etc.

                              Someone might say the system is rigged.

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