Trump administration says it has begun deporting migrants to Guantánamo Bay
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Has the Orange Turd installed the ovens yet?
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definitely not an expert but i believe they’re allowed a trial and can apply for asylum if they’re scared to go back to their country. at guantanamo i do not believe they have that right.
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It's such a fair question that literally at no other time in America's history did a president feel the need to use an extrajudicial torture prison as a deportation zone. WhAt CoUlD pOSsiBlY bE tHe AlTeRnAtIvE?! Idiot.
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Yeah I remember Obama wanted to close it, but then the big question of where to move the prisoners to in the US had to be answered, and nobody wanted to hold them. It was politically dead at that point.
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Wasn't a traditional walk out, but just yesterday there was a TikTok spread one that got a few of my students out on the street in LA to protest and cause traffic. Got in the news, at least. Normally non profits and rights groups do it, like in 2017.
Also naturally it's only Latinos in that, everyone else are very complacent right now.
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Asking for a solution to the immigrant question. That's the reason the Nazis built concentration camps too.
Turns out you don't actually need to imprison people in extrajudicial torture camps, you can just treat them with a shred of human decency instead.
Like we've been dealing with immigrants for centuries, practically every nation has, we don't need a 'final solution', we can process them individually and find solutions dynamically based on the needs and situation of the individual. Sometimes that means deportation, sometimes it means granting asylum, and sometimes it means working with our allies to find a suitable destination. Imprisoning them in Guantanamo bay is not a solution, it's a pretense for extermination.
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The unwritten implication is that they will be used for slave labour, tortured, and/or killed. It really depends on how fascist and violent Trump wants it to get. Guantanamo Bay is not outfitted for mass detention, so you connect the dots.
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You say Biden and Obama put in place, and then copy/paste something that a president prior to them in office did. What exactly are you saying they did?
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Sometimes deals can be arranged with countries of origin (or nearby), even if it takes time and diplomatic effort (and probably some compensation to the receiver).
If that fails, and anyways until that succeeds (if ever), you still have to treat these people as humans with dignity and rights.
If they are criminals, they serve their time like anyone else.
But first and foremost, if only for pragmatic reasons, society should look for ways to integrate these individuals in a way which benefits everyone; as a productive member. Most people don't strive to live in misery, and they probably came to your country in hopes of a better future. Help them build that, and everybody might win.
The alternative is to become a monster yourself and still have no answers.
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So they pick up the guns they own to fight back? That's the only reason they own guns right? To fight back an opressive government.
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Ah yes Obama was right not to close it otherwise they would have to have freed the prisoners /s
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So it is your belief that Trump is going to move thousands maybe 10's of thousands of immigrants to Guantanamo Bay to enslave, torture, and murder them. Do you even know how ridiculous you are?
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I am almost done migrating away from all US businesses as a result of this. I am even drinking freeway cola
I work in IT as a freelance DevOps/Cloud engineer and am advising all my clients to migrate away from AWS etc.
Even sold most of S&P 500 and reinvested into an all-world ex-US ETF.
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Obama could have pardoned the prisoners and apologized for holding them for many years without trial, in blatant violation of the plain text in the US Constitution.
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Like when Trump published the minutes from his "perfect phone call".
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Yesterday, inspired by the news about mass depaorations, i watched a documentary on the Final Solution.
Among a lot of interesting things, one thing stood out to me: The original Nazis were afraid that the german people would not only reject genocide, but also reject the idea of jews (aka. their neighbors) being sent to brutal labor camps.
So they produced propaganda movies depicting the city Theresienstadt as a spa town. And then told the public that the jews would be sent there to be protected from the increasingly antisemitic public.To lull victims into a false sense of security, the SS advertised Theresienstadt as a "spa town" where Jews could retire, and encouraged them to sign fraudulent home purchase contracts, pay "deposits" for rent and board, and surrender life insurance policies and other assets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresienstadt_Ghetto
Nowadays, you can just tell the american people:
Hey, we are gonna send your neighbors to a torture camp. Great camp. Lovely camp. Most brutal camp of the world.
And they are like: Yessss, finally a solution to the migrant question.
I can also recommend Life Under Adolf Hitler: The First Years Of Nazi Germany.
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Biden's administration used the camps Trump created to deport people.
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Non-citizens detained in war don't have the same rights as US citizens.
Some of those people were guilty and should have been tried and jailed here (provided they could safely be held here).
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Im not sure that's accurate given how racist many presidents were.
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Yeah, I mean, such a thing has never happened before. How ridiculous. Transporting thousands or even millions of people into camps to let them work themselves to death or to just kill them. Nobody would ever do such a thing!