Europe preps huge defense package in boost to Ukraine: "Never been seen"
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Perhaps the best time was back then. The next best time is now.
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The sentiment is understandable and in a naive sense I agree, but the paradox of tolerance applies here, and it’s not so straight forward.
Sometimes you just have to punch a nazi in order to stop them getting too comfortable and getting bold. Well, right now the equivalent of the nazi here are, and have been, emboldened for over a decade, and it’s unfortunately going to take a lot of punches to stop them swallowing everyone while and imposing even worse environments and even more poverty for all.
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Ensured sovereignty sounds pretty useful to me.
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Whoever spend billions in war instead useful things is the aggressor
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French nuclear program: Fin!
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Putin leverage military spending the same way: "if the west calm the fuck down we could"
USA, Russia, China, Europe they are all corrupted as fuck ruled by maniacs who seek war and power.
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We are all humans living in the same planet countries are invisible lines draw on a map
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The half that didn't die as kids, you mean?
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Then you'd be fine living in a world run by Kim Jong Un, right? Countries are invisible lines.
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Intellectual honesty tends not to be a primary motivator itself.
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Here's the paradox of tolerance to you: we are ruled by maniacs corrupted by money and power who seek war and chaos as a leverage to get more wealth and fuel their insanity. We either stop them and oppose their military spending or we are all ending up in a meat grinder fighting one against the other.
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They weren't. Mostly.
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They've actually been pretty much tied with the Russians for the last year, I'd say. Russia's bigger, but also taking way more losses, and in the end the front line ends up being static.
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Well, banned from here now.
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The world run by kim jong un is a military dictatorship that spend the equivalent of european billions in war. Unlike you i don't want any of this shit, i would like public billions to be spend on useful things and not to fight proxy wars against made up enemies.
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Or under trump, as clearly its all the same right?
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If they don't spend 700 billion on this, the "proxy" war with Russia (that is currently "cheap" for most of Europe to support), will cost them far, far, far, far more than 700 billion in a few short years/months.
This is why you support proxy wars when they're in your interest.
It's like outsourcing a future war to a country that won't touch your shores.
Ukraine is getting fucked up by Russia right now. Mines, bombs, guns, battle, towns destroyed, infrastructure disruptions, etc.
You want that contained in Ukraine as much as possible. The second they lose, it will spill out into all of Europe and will be far more expensive and too late to contain.
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If you think democracy is a good thing you should realize that there's none anymore and ukraine is under martial law.
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Is this a joke? Sorry so much time living in clown world has made it hard to tell.
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You're changing the subject. I was talking about how sovereignty is useful.
And I'd say it's pretty fucking useful when a dictator is threatening to take over where you live.
