Italy calls for 'immediate' summit between US, Europe following Zelensky-Trump clash
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Yeah, you're right.
At this point we either end up as a dictatorship (please God I hope not) or his current role right now will disqualify him from presidency in the future.
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When I saw the latest deal, it didn't look as bad (I mean it was bad, but not horribly bad as the initial suggestion) so was wondering what changed again. Yeah, looks like he was baited and this was done on purpose.
Trump wants to go all the way with Russia, but there are still Republicans that support Ukraine or at least dislike Russia and he wanted to show them that Zelenskyy is just an ungrateful warmonger.
Another thing is that trump invited Russian press to this meeting (while American AP is banned).
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I understand that Meloni is struggling with cognitive dissonance here because she loves Trump and the American far right but also recognizes Russia as the obvious enemy to Europe that they are (and thereby making Ukraine our natural ally).
But the time for courting is over. America has become a hostile nation and they might actually be our enemy soon.
Increase European integration and federalization. Increase defense spending and fund a European MIC. Organize into a joint European army. This and only this can be our way forward or we will be crushed between two fascist superpowers.
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Which is probably why she's so keen to talk to Trump, who's also a fascist.
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The USA absolutely cannot be trusted as an ally. If a war we're to break out right now I truly do not know what side I'd be on.
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I couldn't agree more. I'm an outsider to Europe, unfortunately, and find myself as a Canadian increasingly seeing America in much the way Ukraine must have felt about Russia in 2010. Europe is the last hope for democracy and the rule of law in the world right now.
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I hope we can greatly strengthen our relationship between the EU and Canada.
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I know which side I’d be on, just not sure which side my government will be.
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Same here my friend. Terrible times in the world, and the only way to survive such times is cooperation
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This here so much. /a German
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News flash: most countries have assholes in charge by now. Latest member to the club: us.
/a German(Arguably Scholz was already a criminal asshole)
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Meloni’s summit proposal is a reminder that Europe won’t sit quietly while sidelined by Washington.
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How fucked is the world, when Meloni is the reasonable one...
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I love reading about people not knowing the EU military industry writing about how it's somehow weak.
Newsflash: it's not. We don't talk or write about it 'cause it's sensitive data. We protect sensitive data.
Our armies may not be strong, but our military industry is. -
So strong it buys all relevant jets from the us.
So strong.
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Your industries can't even supply artillery and basic equipment to Ukraine, at least nowhere at the level needed to win the war. This is well-known. European leaders have been harping on the need to upgrade capacities.
So, newsflash: sorry, your military industry isn't up to par yet. The potential is there. Many of the technologies are there. The actual support and capacity to make the most out of that potential is lacking.
This isn't in any way a controversial opinion. The reality on the ground with constant shortages and European leaders themselves acknowledging the military industry needs more support is well known.
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And trump and his GOP friends aren't? The only difference is that Italian fascists can use the nostalgia card, so their rhetoric is clearer.
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Wouldn't be surprised to see a headline saying that negotiation broke down too.
"Don't tell me how to feel. We're gonna feel great. You know what? I didn't hear a thank you from you. We're gonna put the world's biggliest Olive Garden right here in America's 53th state, how about that, Meloni?"
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Newsflash: it's not.*
- As long as it's not made by the Brits.
(Looks accusingly at the SA80 / L85 platform... And the Challenger 2)