Trump says Canada and Mexico to be hit with 25% tariffs on Saturday

[snowclone@lemmy.world]

I don't doubt he thinks that's possible, but what every one who repeats this idea seems to not grasp is that the US doesn't manufacture consumer goods, and increasingly we aren't able to farm our own food, particularly right the fuck now while we're depopulation the country of farm labor. There's nothing here to replace what we can't get now. There's no American alternative. We don't do that, we pay other people to do it in a country with no labor protects and garbage pay and economy. No one wants to start manufacturing anything new right now in the US because it will become even less profitably the second the moron is out of office and all this stops, then there the fact that even if we had people who wanted to start doing all this manufacturing, it would take them often more than 5-10 years to get off the ground and that's not even getting into finding labor in the US to do this work. We being depopulated. Apparently the 1m dead from Covid simply wasn't enough.

[stringere@sh.itjust.works]

And sell the surplus to his billionaire cabinet to be resold to the less than poor while the poors starve.

[corkyskog@sh.itjust.works]

This is a really good read. Thank you.

[emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de]

This would be beautiful. I remember when there were mod-chip stores beside internet cafes, where i could bring my xbox and pay to have a chip and a hard drive installed that let me copy any game i wanted from a rented disk or downloaded off the internet right onto the console. I still have that console and pulled it out during quarantine to make use of the huge library of games on the hard drive. Having this sort of freedom for all types of goods and electronics would be incredible, but i doubt it will ever happen.

[cyborganism@lemmy.ca]

and if anyone up there wants to come renovate the white house again… i won’t be in your way.

[cyborganism@lemmy.ca]

That's a really good explanation and I wish more Americans had this knowledge before they voted.

[captainlezbian@lemmy.world]

Can confirm am leaving it.

For real though, aspects of Ohio are awesome. Republicans ruined it though

[captainlezbian@lemmy.world]

Ooh you missed out on Athens Ohio. Beautiful city in the mountains

[captainlezbian@lemmy.world]

Yeah but any time the state does anything good by ballot initiative the state government does something regressive out of spite

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

As an American, I'm loving this... Really. Its high time we feel the pain we've inflicted on other countries. Our "comeuppance" if you will.

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

It will unless it can come from somewhere else.

[werefreeatlast@lemmy.world]

I love how old the orange asshole looks in the photos. Hopefully things just work out in our favor soon. It could be a permanent sleep or maybe a nice golf ball to the forehead or choked on a pretzel. I think we should probably place some ...legal... Bets on how it all goes down? It shouldn't that that long. I remember when my Grandma looked like that and we buried her a few months later.

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

Problem there might be transport. You need to do it without crossing a US border.

How much shipping goes between Canada and Mexico?

[shaggysnacks@lemmy.myserv.one]

I really like this idea.

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

What does Mexico export to the US that isn't a consumer good?

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

It's the US that needs to produce locally. The rest of us are happy trading with each other, same as before.

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

Maybe the free trade would allow trains and the like to go right through the USA without selling anything?

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

Why would they want to do that?

[immutable@lemm.ee]

American ruling class. Oh would you look at that, we just found a 24.99999% price hike that we definitely have to do because economy. Still cheaper though than the Canadian and Mexican imports.

It’s just the rest of America that is going to get fucked.

[whostosay@lemmy.world]

https://jwmason.org/slackwire/what-exactly-does-the-us-buy-from-mexico/

This is a good list from a quick search, other search results states a lot of vehicles (in this case we'd be talking about vehicles for industry) agricultural (I didn't look far enough but it could be both produce which would be consumer, but it could also have some ag production products, and machinery, machinery probably being the largest non consumer good product depending on how much that agricultural divide is between consumer/industry.

Included in that list is oil, that would be non consumer, computers would be roughly the same split if not more than agricultural considering companies go through computers more than the average consumer. Computers is also a pretty broad tag so take that with a grain of salt.

Services and other seems kind of substantial, this is not my area at all, just relaying a search essentially, so that could go either way if included in the tariffs at all.