Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

I haven't done that, like, at all.

[dreamlandlividity@lemmy.world]

Ah right, because US politicians care so much about calls and e-mails from Europeans who can't vote for them.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

Plenty of European politicians support this war too. How many of them did you contact?

And you didn't answer my question about Palestinians. How many have you talked to about their needs and desires?

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

Oh, mitigate things in Palestine?

I send regular donations to groups there for aid.

What beyond that, do you suggest? Voting for a dem wouldn't have changed things for them. Neither do phone calls.

Intried the phone call route, letters, etc. I was told by my dem reps, that it's important for the US to maintain a strong security presence there, to protect Israelis.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

Pardon me, it was the person I originally replied to. You just decided to butt your way in after they started calling people idiots to claim that's not what other people are doing for some reason.

[dreamlandlividity@lemmy.world]

Oh, right, I forgot I should have checked first if they wanted a bomb dropped on their head or literally anything else.

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

It's cute. I'm not a talkie.

Glad to see the red scare is still paying dividends. You must be a proud McCarthyist.

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

So, what change un outcome did you expect? Because I didn't expect either candidate to care about dead Palestinians, or exploited workers at home...

[dreamlandlividity@lemmy.world]

Plenty of European politicians support this war too. How many of them did you contact?

Thankfully in Europe, we have more choices than two genocidal maniacs, so I could just vote for ones that don't support genocide.

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

Oh! Like we sent nerve agents to Hussesin to use on Iran?

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

Well, liberals have been calling all non Kfans idiots.... so, you understand why it devolves so quickly, right?

[alexc@lemmy.world]

Well, they keep vetoing things that would help. Like calling it a genocide…

[ghosthacked@lemm.ee]

I don't think that legitimate elections are happening in 4 years. They're gutting everything and installing their flunkies just as they said they would in p2025.

The last election is where democracy died.

[dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Do you think places like Puerto Rico and American Samoa are states or colonies? Do you think they get good political representation? It never ended lol

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

Yes, Harris said she had unwavering support for Israel, and would continue the Biden administration plans.

[glitchdx@lemmy.world]

so, are we only allowed to say 'genocide' when criticizing democrats? but when republicans do it "it's not a genocide, it's ethnic cleansing".

[elflakoinri@lemmynsfw.com]

The voters of the usa are the assholes who help a facist to win, voting for this asshole or not voting for any candidate and let a facist win, if you only have two options in an election, a shit politician vs a facist you always vote for the shit politician but i read a lot of shit excuses of US assholes that they be almost forced to vote for a facist, now you have a shit facist as president so yes, is your fault

[saleh@feddit.org]

As it stands currently there is much more aid getting into Gaza and much less Palestinians are murdered than throughout all of Bidens presidency since Oct. 8 2023 until a few days before he left office.

The idea that things would be better for Palestinians under the current DNC elites and who they put into power has no empirical basis.

If you didn't call for fighting against the Biden administration over its support for the genocide, but now call for fighting against the Trump administration over it, your reasons are not related to the genocide. You cannot accept the genocide by one administration and reject the genocide by another administration. In this case you simply do not consider the genocide an important issue.

And this is crucial to understand. In regards to the genocide in Gaza, but more generally to the US being a murderous and racist empire, the Republicans and Democrats are both pillars of maintaining this status quo. And we see again right now, that many Democrats are eager to support the Trump administration now, instead of fighting it. Because they want to maintain the empire for the oligarchs. They just fight over the flavor of oligarchy.

So the solution will not come from helping the current DNC elites maintain power. It can only come from removing all current political elites and the oligarchs who they represent.

[sam_bass@lemmy.world]

Trump has no alternative but to jump off the edge of the grand canyon

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

You are literally defending the only person calling anyone an idiot. So yes, I do understand why it devolves so quickly. Because the two of you also think it's okay to call people idiots.

Maybe don't insult anyone even if they insult you?