Freed At Last From Patents, Does Anyone Still Care About MP3?
-
@dustyData Oh my gosh. I see this every single day at work. So many people have no idea where any of their documents are saved, until they can’t find them. I’ll be honest, I use a lot of streaming services for music as well, but I think I might actually go back to simply buying music. Who knows. Call me old-fashioned and only 35 years old, but I still see a point in local storage in traditional desktop type software. There’s not enough of it around here.
-
@daggermoon Ogg is actually my preference, but so much stuff still doesn’t support it these days.
-
Most music files may be MP3s, but music files are rare these days. I wouldn't be surprised if most people under 30 have never interacted with a music file at all, they just use streaming services.
-
Still care about MP3- it's the bog standard, the thing EVERYthing supports. Like the shitty SBC codec on Bluetooth. I've still got tons of MP3s and they aren't going away anytime soon.
Everything I get new though is high-res FLAC.
-
Ogg at lower bitrates sounded better than mp3 at the same rate. Consumers dont care, but for a lot of game developers the zero patent risk and higher quality shipping with smaller files made Ogg a great choice at the time.
For me? FLACs are the only way.... which reminds me, I wonder I can still convert all the SHN (shorten) lossless files I still have. I should get on that before a converter doesn't exist.
-
The Nyquist limit?
You need sampling at twice the frequency as a minimum to extract a time domain signal into the frequency domain. It says nothing about "perfect" especially when you're listening in the time domain.
There is a lot of data in the time domain that impacts sound/signal quality. As others have said though, it probably doesn't matter without high quality equipment and a good ear.
It's also good to note that you can train your hearing. A musician or producer or audiophile are going to hear things and qualities you don't. It's edge cases though, and generally irrelevant to regular listening.
You definitely can hear the difference between MP3 320 and lower mp3 bitrates though.
-
m4a
That's mp4, which is 33% better than mp3 /j
-
the concept of file folders and directories, essential to previous generations’ understanding of computers, is gibberish to many modern students.
This is so weird to me. Aren't people at all curious? Like, I would never try to fix a car's engine, but I have a basic understanding of how one works. I wouldn't install a toilet, but I know about J-traps. I wouldn't write my own 3D engine, but I know the basics of how they work.
Files and folder is such a fundamental and basic thing. Where's the basic curiosity?
-
I 100% do. I think mp3 is a good compromise of sound and space. It's also the format I'm used to. Just like how people swear by physical record. If I'm at a get together and hear mp3 quality, I'm at home.
That being said, I have my absolute favorites in flac for my iPod 5th gen video I rebuilt. The 5th gen's dac, Wolfson, is a solid little dac for the day and age. Got Rockbox loaded up and I'm ace, but I've hard saved all the Apple firmware for every model in case the time came to sell them. Old iPods could be an investment someday and I own every gen in multiples.
-
Honestly, I'm a little surprised that a smartphone user wouldn't have a familiarity of a concept of files, setting aside the whole familiarity-with-a-PC thing. Like, I've always had a file manager on my Android smartphone. I mean, ok...most software packages don't require having one browse the file structure on the thing. And many are isolated, don't have permission to touch shared files. Probably a good thing to sandbox apps, helps reduce the impact of malware.
But...I mean, even sandboxed apps can provide file access to the application-private directory on Android. I guess they just mostly don't, if the idea is that they should only be looking at files in application-private storage on-device, or if they're just the front end to a cloud service.
Hmm. I mean, I have GNU/Linux software running in Termux, do stuff like
scpfrom there. A file manager. Open local video files inmpvor in PDF viewers and such. I've a Markdown editor that permits browsing the filesystem. Ditto for an org-mode editor. I've got a directory hierarchy that I've created, though simpler and I don't touch it as much as on the PC.But, I suppose that maybe most apps just don't expose it in their UI. I could see a typical Android user just never using any of the above software (though...not having a local PDF viewer or video player seems odd, but I guess someone could just rely wholly on streaming services for video and always open PDFs off the network).
I remember being absolutely shocked when trying to view a locally-stored HTML file once that Android-based web browsers apparently didn't permit opening local HTML files, that one had to set up a local webserver (though that may have something to do with the fact that I believe that by default, with Web browser security models, a webpage loaded via the
file://URI scheme has general access to your local filesystem but one talking to a webserver on localhost does not...maybe that was the rationale). -
I meant - before Unix.
-
I'm in the same boat: can't hear any difference.
But, I have GBs of 320k MP3s... is it worth converting to Ogg ?
-
I'm a big fan ogg opus, but I wouldn't convert between lossy formats
-
This is what we were all told for years and years- that it was impossible that anyone could hear anything in vinyl that was supposed to be there but that couldn't be reproduced with digital at cd quality. Then DVD came out And people could genuinely hear the difference from CD quality audio even in stereo. It turns out that dynamic range is limited by the audio sampling rate and the human ear can easily detect a far greater range CD audio supports.
-
Yeah only the most popular formats are guaranteed support sadly. Support seems to be relegated to formats that are 20+ years old.
-
I am under 30, and I have interacted with music files.
edit: I don't know about where you live, but I am definitely not the exception.
-
192kbps variable mp3 on my 64MB mp3 player...
-
I mean, I'm sure that it is less supported, but in all the years I've been using it I haven't found one.
️ -
-
