John Oliver launches "Make yourself less valuable to Meta" website, suggests Signal, Mastodon, Pixelfed, and BlueSky as Meta alternatives
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Why don't stories like this EVER mention Lemmy?
Well, I get that Lemmy is an alternative social media, but it's not really an alternative to Facebook. Anonymous usernames, text-based posts, you can't follow people, Fediverse is somewhat confusing.. I'd recommend it as an alternative to Reddit, but probably not the website where boomers want to check up on their neighbors and friends
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Well, I get that Lemmy is an alternative social media, but it's not really an alternative to Facebook. Anonymous usernames, text-based posts, you can't follow people, Fediverse is somewhat confusing.. I'd recommend it as an alternative to Reddit, but probably not the website where boomers want to check up on their neighbors and friends
you can't follow people
Challenge accepted
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Clean cut kids do not find Lemmy very palatable.
I don't find Lemmy very palatable. I'm still here because I like to hear different perspectives. Lemmy as a whole seems to hate different perspectives, it's like many go out of their way to keep it closer to a hive mind. 80% of the world's people would not fit in here. I don't either, but I don't give a shit.
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The tankie bullshit is over blown PR smear.
Some how we manage coexist fine enough.
It's not just the tankie stuff. Tbf this place at times feels like the far left version of 4chan, and I say that as a very left person. Reddit's upvote system has always had an issue with brigading/dog piling leading to hostile discussions and echo chambers. In Lemmy, the issue is worse because it feels like most of the people who were drawn here are deeply tied to that culture from Reddit. By contrast, Reddit has a lot more young and innocent people to soften things.
I quit/deleted my Reddit account many years ago, before Lemmy's rise in popularity. I just come here every once in a while because I like decentralized/fediverse stuff, but the Reddit formula really does turn me off. I can't imagine the average person having the stomach for this brand of internet discussions, regardless of political leaning. It's quite hostile and combative.
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Why don't stories like this EVER mention Lemmy?
Not as many grassroots advocates. Even on the Reddit alternative sub the consensus isn’t lemmy somehow.
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I don’t want to get my hopes up but is this Facebook’s MySpace moment?
Even better. It’s the fediverses Facebook moment.
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As if Meta actually deletes anything
Haven't "shadow" accounts been a thing for years even for people that don't use meta?
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John Oliver cited a 5000% rise in search queries related to leaving Meta and deleting accounts. Among the topics mentioned in the analysis, attention was drawn to early Facebook's naivete with regard to moderation requirements, the constitutional framework, and a history of governmental interference.
Oliver debunks common right-wing "cry censorship" talking points, as well as the objective difficulty of moderation endeavors, and how direct threats by Trump may have influenced Zuckerberg's turnaround.
Oliver went on to suggest Signal, Mastodon, Bluesky, and Pixelfed as alternatives that "do not seem as desperate to fall in line with Trump". For those reluctant to completely ditch Meta, Oliver revealed a new site with step-by-step instructions to "make yourself less valuable to them".
The guide was a collaboration with the EFF, and includes settings' tweaks for Facebook and Meta, whose 98% of revenue comes from micro-targeting ads, the host previously cited, to increase privacy, and recommends Firefox, Privacy Badger, as "other measures" to take in order "to block advertisers and other third parties from tracking you".
The segment culminated in a mock advert, in which the new Meta's approach to moderation is coined as "Fuck it", and hints to racism, internet scams, and calls to genocide running rampant on Meta's platforms.
The clip reminds the origins of Facebook as a site to "rank college girls by hotness", and its implication in genocide in Myanmar, which was more thoroughly discussed in an Oliver's previous special on Facebook in 2018.
John Oliver for president
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Why don't stories like this EVER mention Lemmy?
Not a very large userbase.
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Well, I get that Lemmy is an alternative social media, but it's not really an alternative to Facebook. Anonymous usernames, text-based posts, you can't follow people, Fediverse is somewhat confusing.. I'd recommend it as an alternative to Reddit, but probably not the website where boomers want to check up on their neighbors and friends
you can’t follow people
He said "Lemmy" but probably meant "Threadiverse", and mbin does support both the Twitter-style following user model and the Reddit-style forum model.
To use fedia.io as an example:
I dunno about piefed, haven't used it.
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It's not just the tankie stuff. Tbf this place at times feels like the far left version of 4chan, and I say that as a very left person. Reddit's upvote system has always had an issue with brigading/dog piling leading to hostile discussions and echo chambers. In Lemmy, the issue is worse because it feels like most of the people who were drawn here are deeply tied to that culture from Reddit. By contrast, Reddit has a lot more young and innocent people to soften things.
I quit/deleted my Reddit account many years ago, before Lemmy's rise in popularity. I just come here every once in a while because I like decentralized/fediverse stuff, but the Reddit formula really does turn me off. I can't imagine the average person having the stomach for this brand of internet discussions, regardless of political leaning. It's quite hostile and combative.
Idk, to me the comments on lemmy are generally less toxic and I feel like I see way more nuanced discussion than on reddit.
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I don’t think so. There’s no good alternative to Facebook that is worth leaving it for. When MySpace died, there was a significantly better alternative (FB). Even if people quit using Facebook regularly, they’ll need to keep it.
What do people use Facebook for these days? (I deleted my account about 10 years ago so I'm not sure what it's for now)
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Well, I get that Lemmy is an alternative social media, but it's not really an alternative to Facebook. Anonymous usernames, text-based posts, you can't follow people, Fediverse is somewhat confusing.. I'd recommend it as an alternative to Reddit, but probably not the website where boomers want to check up on their neighbors and friends
That's what Friendica is for
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There was a whole saga of him buying expensive rat erotica artwork at one point, which is a sentence I never thought I'd write.
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I don’t think so. There’s no good alternative to Facebook that is worth leaving it for. When MySpace died, there was a significantly better alternative (FB). Even if people quit using Facebook regularly, they’ll need to keep it.
I'm actually not sure what it is fb offers that people stay on it for. I find that you don't need it to connect with actual friends. Even just making a Slack for close friends is a far better experience. It's not great for finding news, it's terrible for trying to have any sort of discussion. I genuinely don't understand what purpose it serves.
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This is the first time zuck has gone full ass-kisser with curly hair and a gold chain, though
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What do people use Facebook for these days? (I deleted my account about 10 years ago so I'm not sure what it's for now)
I've been gone from FB for about 3 months but for me it was the groups. You could find groups for anything, but personally, I miss my local groups. Particularly the No-Buy and vegan and political activist groups. Finding an equivalent outside of FB is sub par, if it even exists at all.
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They've gone full mask off, which is why there'sthe sudden backlash. The hate speech rules now include a section that explicitly says that it's okay to call LGBTQ people mentally ill. They're the only group with a specific carve-out in the rules saying that it's okay to post hate speech about them.
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I don’t want to get my hopes up but is this Facebook’s MySpace moment?
So much of Facebook is just automated accounts responding to automated accounts in order to milk gullible advertisers. If everyone logged off tomorrow, I don't know if Zuckerberg would notice.
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John Oliver for president
He can't because he wasn't born here, but we could totally elect his wife and let him do the whole first husband thing while still advising if she needs it.
