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What's the best way of dealing with Maga hatred, white power, genocide denial and other things you see a Lemmy user espousing?

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    That definitely is a reality, but I don't think you've wrapped yourself around the "why" yet.

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    Oh I know the "why." Because they don't like conservative points of view. But I'm not changing.

    Lemmy is open to everyone, just not necessarily "welcome" to everyone.

    But I plan to stay in spite of the drama. So all good.

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      you went from “it’s their community” to “they used a bullshit reason to get rid of me."

      Yes, both are true. It is their community. But they decided to get creative to get rid of me. And all I did was post AP News and Reuters articles. They are allowed to do that, but my point stands that I think the real reason I was banned was because they don't like conservative points of view--regardless of the legitimacy of the source. Which is a form of censorship.

      I'm not banned from everywhere, so no biggie. I still post, so no biggie. But let's not pretend that people don't like me because I post fox news articles. Dude, come on now... You know Lemmy doesn't like conservatives. It's that simple.

      And you also know that Lemmy throws around words like "Nazi" and "fascist" way too much and in fact has started to dilute the power of those words. Which is too bad. Because Lemmy is becoming as hateful as the people they say they fight against.

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      Things I do know:

      1. Lemmy doesn't like conservative opinions
      2. Lemmy doesn't like you

      Things I don't "know":

      1. Lemmy throws around "nazi" and "fascist" too much.

      Life is simpler when you tell other people what they know, not accurate, but simpler.

      I get why people throw those words around your posts but it's absolutely not because of your sources. If anti-fascist sentiments offend you, then I have some news for you, friend.

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        You were confused with the fediverse's biggest asshole by accident? LOL, you went from "it's their community" to "they used a bullshit reason to get rid of me." You are a side show and a half.

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        To make my point. I posted a science article to lemmy.world c/science ([email protected]) just now.

        It's from phys.org.

        Non-political. Good legit article. About dinosaur findings. The article: https://phys.org/news/2025-04-air-pockets-bones-alvarezsauridae-skeleton.html

        Immediately got 2 downvotes. Within 30 seconds of posting. People downvoted because they don't like my personal politics. Had nothing to do with the article.

        Not very scientifc-minded, heh? LMAO

        https://lemmy.today/post/27009051

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          Oh I know the "why." Because they don't like conservative points of view. But I'm not changing.

          Lemmy is open to everyone, just not necessarily "welcome" to everyone.

          But I plan to stay in spite of the drama. So all good.

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          I thought the GOP was the party of personal responsibility? But you really think you're blameless in this?

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            Things I do know:

            1. Lemmy doesn't like conservative opinions
            2. Lemmy doesn't like you

            Things I don't "know":

            1. Lemmy throws around "nazi" and "fascist" too much.

            Life is simpler when you tell other people what they know, not accurate, but simpler.

            I get why people throw those words around your posts but it's absolutely not because of your sources. If anti-fascist sentiments offend you, then I have some news for you, friend.

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            Fair point. From our conversation I assumed you would have seen that. My fault.

            I get why people throw those words around your posts but it’s absolutely not because of your sources.

            Yeah, what is something I have said in any of my posts that makes me a nazi or a fascist.

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            • ? Guest

              Things I do know:

              1. Lemmy doesn't like conservative opinions
              2. Lemmy doesn't like you

              Things I don't "know":

              1. Lemmy throws around "nazi" and "fascist" too much.

              Life is simpler when you tell other people what they know, not accurate, but simpler.

              I get why people throw those words around your posts but it's absolutely not because of your sources. If anti-fascist sentiments offend you, then I have some news for you, friend.

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              Things I do know:
              Lemmy doesn’t like conservative opinions
              Lemmy doesn’t like you

              Truth! lmao

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                I thought the GOP was the party of personal responsibility? But you really think you're blameless in this?

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                I thought the democratic party was the party of inclusion and diversity? But you really think other people are blameless in this?

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                  To make my point. I posted a science article to lemmy.world c/science ([email protected]) just now.

                  It's from phys.org.

                  Non-political. Good legit article. About dinosaur findings. The article: https://phys.org/news/2025-04-air-pockets-bones-alvarezsauridae-skeleton.html

                  Immediately got 2 downvotes. Within 30 seconds of posting. People downvoted because they don't like my personal politics. Had nothing to do with the article.

                  Not very scientifc-minded, heh? LMAO

                  https://lemmy.today/post/27009051

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                  I get the feeling you're putting science as a whole before sociology here. It's self preservation to push those that would damage the herd outside of the herd.

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                    I thought the democratic party was the party of inclusion and diversity? But you really think other people are blameless in this?

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                    Maybe it used to be, but a few bad apples spoiled the bunch. I've been hearing more of a social contract approach where you're respected IFF you respect everybody else. Fail to do that and you're as good as a traitor.

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                      Maybe it used to be, but a few bad apples spoiled the bunch. I've been hearing more of a social contract approach where you're respected IFF you respect everybody else. Fail to do that and you're as good as a traitor.

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                      Fair point.

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                        I get the feeling you're putting science as a whole before sociology here. It's self preservation to push those that would damage the herd outside of the herd.

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                        Sure, but it's fucking Lemmy. It's a forum for shit-talk. It ain't the real world. I don't take it that seriously.

                        But reading the posts of some, and it's like Depression-porn and doomscrolling-porn. Many on Lemmy seem to be happier being unhappy. lol

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                          Sure, but it's fucking Lemmy. It's a forum for shit-talk. It ain't the real world. I don't take it that seriously.

                          But reading the posts of some, and it's like Depression-porn and doomscrolling-porn. Many on Lemmy seem to be happier being unhappy. lol

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                          That's a hell of an opinion to hold. When you don't seek to understand those you don't agree with, you are perfectly ok with them holding onto dissonance that they very likely don't have. I don't think you understand Lemmy, you dismiss it as locker room talk.

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                            That's a hell of an opinion to hold. When you don't seek to understand those you don't agree with, you are perfectly ok with them holding onto dissonance that they very likely don't have. I don't think you understand Lemmy, you dismiss it as locker room talk.

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                            hen you don’t seek to understand those you don’t agree with

                            Which is exactly how Lemmy is with conservatives and their points of view.

                            I don’t think you understand Lemmy, you dismiss it as locker room talk.

                            It is locker room talk. Dude, no one has even fucking heard of Lemmy. How many users are on Lemmy total? Maybe few hundred thousand? Not even a fucking dent against reddit, and most people in the real world don't even take Reddit seriously.

                            You vastly overestimate the reach and influence that Lemmy has on the real world.

                            Anyone have real numbers on how many users Lemmy has? I don't know right off, but it's small. Very very small.

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                              hen you don’t seek to understand those you don’t agree with

                              Which is exactly how Lemmy is with conservatives and their points of view.

                              I don’t think you understand Lemmy, you dismiss it as locker room talk.

                              It is locker room talk. Dude, no one has even fucking heard of Lemmy. How many users are on Lemmy total? Maybe few hundred thousand? Not even a fucking dent against reddit, and most people in the real world don't even take Reddit seriously.

                              You vastly overestimate the reach and influence that Lemmy has on the real world.

                              Anyone have real numbers on how many users Lemmy has? I don't know right off, but it's small. Very very small.

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                              This simultaneously sounds like "conservatives are a minority and they shouldn't be treated this way" and "the fediverse is small, they deserve to be treated this way"

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                                This simultaneously sounds like "conservatives are a minority and they shouldn't be treated this way" and "the fediverse is small, they deserve to be treated this way"

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                                Nah, I don't really care THAT much. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of vast majority of Lemmy users. I don't really care one way or the other. I'll continue to post what I want, and I'll continue not taking any of it seriously.

                                It's legit like posting Raiders stuff to a Broncos-leaning forum on a site that promises they welcome everyone when they don't. lol

                                People being mad makes no difference to my real world at all.

                                I'm still retired at 50. I'm still fit and healthy. I still spend awesome days in the park and hiking in the beautiful countryside every morning and evening. Life is awesome, even the Lemmy says the world is gonna end soon. (it won't end anytime soon)

                                Go Raiders, by the way. Go Knights. 🙂

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                                  Doxx them.

                                  What, that isn't allowed? Well neither is white supremacist hate speech. Fuck that trash.

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                                  Stop calling yourself leftist you hateful fuck.

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                                    If I respond, it's mostly for the 'audience'. I used to argue on r/libertarian or r/conservative, not to change the other person's mind, but to add a different opinion to the thread. I doubt I ever convinced the other person of anything, but hope I got other people to think a bit more about some of the policies being advocated for.

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                                    This makes it look like the post is popular and draws more attention. Depending on the platform, it signals the algorithm to show it to more people.

                                    Doing this is engaging exactly the way they expect you to engage, it helps no one.

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                                      Bully them. The only way to deal with a bully is to show your strength.

                                      You know how a lot of libs like to police language? That weak and only pisses off bullies. Instead, use their language against them. For example, a decent liberal would never do this but you can do more emotional damage to a maga and make a point they would understand by calling them a ‘regarded fage’ (paraphrasing because that is ban worthy insult in many places online) over and over again than you ever could by using logic against them.

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                                      Sometimes in wonder if Lemmy is the number 1, social network in Americans highschools.

                                      Because some of these replies...

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                                        Nah, I don't really care THAT much. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of vast majority of Lemmy users. I don't really care one way or the other. I'll continue to post what I want, and I'll continue not taking any of it seriously.

                                        It's legit like posting Raiders stuff to a Broncos-leaning forum on a site that promises they welcome everyone when they don't. lol

                                        People being mad makes no difference to my real world at all.

                                        I'm still retired at 50. I'm still fit and healthy. I still spend awesome days in the park and hiking in the beautiful countryside every morning and evening. Life is awesome, even the Lemmy says the world is gonna end soon. (it won't end anytime soon)

                                        Go Raiders, by the way. Go Knights. 🙂

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                                        You care so little that when somebody finds a hole in your philosophy that you feel compelled to remind them of how little you care. Something keeps bringing you back to shout into the downvoting void.

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                                          You care so little that when somebody finds a hole in your philosophy that you feel compelled to remind them of how little you care. Something keeps bringing you back to shout into the downvoting void.

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                                          You care so little that when somebody finds a hole in your philosophy that you feel compelled to remind them of how little you care.

                                          That's how you read that?!

                                          Gude, I have no "philosophy" and don't feel "compelled" to do anything. This isn't Star Trek or a legal courtroom. It's fucking Lemmy. lol

                                          Something keeps bringing you back to shout into the downvoting void.

                                          I'm responding to your comments.

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