What's the best way of dealing with Maga hatred, white power, genocide denial and other things you see a Lemmy user espousing?
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Nah, this isn't about me. I prefer to stay private about stuff like that. Thanks for trying, tho!
Well that's absolutely fair but people who support trump, support fascist dictators. So there's your answer! I've seen some people on here who support trump, so they are supporting his fascist and dictatorial policies. That should clear things up for you!
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Well that's absolutely fair but people who support trump, support fascist dictators. So there's your answer! I've seen some people on here who support trump, so they are supporting his fascist and dictatorial policies. That should clear things up for you!
That’s a lazy guilt-by-association fallacy. Supporting a politician doesn't mean endorsing every extreme label slapped on them. If Trump were a fascist dictator, he wouldn’t have lost an election, left office, or faced multiple legal challenges from independent courts.
Fascism also requires suppression of free speech, yet his critics dominate every major media and social platform including this one, Lemmy.
Just because you dislike someone doesn’t make them a fascist. That’s emotion, not logic.
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That’s a lazy guilt-by-association fallacy. Supporting a politician doesn't mean endorsing every extreme label slapped on them. If Trump were a fascist dictator, he wouldn’t have lost an election, left office, or faced multiple legal challenges from independent courts.
Fascism also requires suppression of free speech, yet his critics dominate every major media and social platform including this one, Lemmy.
Just because you dislike someone doesn’t make them a fascist. That’s emotion, not logic.
No its not.
It's not endorsing him based on labels its his fascist dictatorial actions that make him a fascist dictator.
You're right about Suppression of free speech, that's why he wanting to deport people who criticism him glad we agree he is against free speech.
I'm not calling him a fascist because I disagree or dislike him I am calling him one because he is. It's logical. Fawning over and defending him is emotional, and lacking logic.
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No its not.
It's not endorsing him based on labels its his fascist dictatorial actions that make him a fascist dictator.
You're right about Suppression of free speech, that's why he wanting to deport people who criticism him glad we agree he is against free speech.
I'm not calling him a fascist because I disagree or dislike him I am calling him one because he is. It's logical. Fawning over and defending him is emotional, and lacking logic.
Wanting something and doing it are not the same. Trump did not deport anyone for criticizing him, and the First Amendment is still fully in place.
If he were truly a fascist dictator, he would have dissolved Congress, taken control of the courts, and jailed opposition leaders. Which never happened.
Labeling someone a fascist just because you interpret their rhetoric in the worst possible light is not logic, it’s bias disguised as argument.
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Wanting something and doing it are not the same. Trump did not deport anyone for criticizing him, and the First Amendment is still fully in place.
If he were truly a fascist dictator, he would have dissolved Congress, taken control of the courts, and jailed opposition leaders. Which never happened.
Labeling someone a fascist just because you interpret their rhetoric in the worst possible light is not logic, it’s bias disguised as argument.
Except for banning AP at press events disputes a judge ruling they are allowed to be there? Funny 1st amendment being upheld. Or using cops to force their way through protestors for an photo op? Free speech wasn't upheld there.
If he were truly a fascist dictator, he would have dissolved Congress, taken control of the courts, and jailed opposition leaders. Which never happened.
All false none of that needs to happen for him to be a dictator, when all the gop cronies are aligned with him.
Labeling someone a fascist just because you interpret their rhetoric in the worst possible light is not logic, it’s bias disguised as argument.
How do you interpret that you won't need to vote again? Or the home grows are next, or ignoring the judiciary as anything worse than the worst possible light? It's only logical that these are the facts, and it's not bias. Bias is ignoring, or defend these truths by plugging your ears.
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Except for banning AP at press events disputes a judge ruling they are allowed to be there? Funny 1st amendment being upheld. Or using cops to force their way through protestors for an photo op? Free speech wasn't upheld there.
If he were truly a fascist dictator, he would have dissolved Congress, taken control of the courts, and jailed opposition leaders. Which never happened.
All false none of that needs to happen for him to be a dictator, when all the gop cronies are aligned with him.
Labeling someone a fascist just because you interpret their rhetoric in the worst possible light is not logic, it’s bias disguised as argument.
How do you interpret that you won't need to vote again? Or the home grows are next, or ignoring the judiciary as anything worse than the worst possible light? It's only logical that these are the facts, and it's not bias. Bias is ignoring, or defend these truths by plugging your ears.
Your argument relies on selective incidents and misinterpretations, lacking the comprehensive evidence needed to label Trump a fascist dictator.
The claim that Trump used police to clear protesters for a photo op at St. John's Church has been scrutinized. A U.S. watchdog found that the decision to clear the area was made to install fencing, not for the photo opportunity.
How do you interpret that you won’t need to vote again?
Please show me proof that we won't be able to vote again.Or the home grows are next,
Drugs suck. Including weed lol
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Your argument relies on selective incidents and misinterpretations, lacking the comprehensive evidence needed to label Trump a fascist dictator.
The claim that Trump used police to clear protesters for a photo op at St. John's Church has been scrutinized. A U.S. watchdog found that the decision to clear the area was made to install fencing, not for the photo opportunity.
How do you interpret that you won’t need to vote again?
Please show me proof that we won't be able to vote again.Or the home grows are next,
Drugs suck. Including weed lol
Your argument relies on selective incidents
Duh?
misinterpretations, lacking the comprehensive evidence needed to label Trump a fascist dictator.
Lol, no, making excuses for this shit heel requires super gold level mental gymnastics.
The claim that Trump used police to clear protesters for a photo op at St. John's Church has been scrutinized. A U.S. watchdog found that the decision to clear the area was made to install fencing, not for the photo opportunity.
Sure thing. Why was he surrounded by guards for a clear photo op hahaha.
Please show me proof that we won't be able to vote again
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vote-four-years/
He literally said it.
Drugs suck. Including weed lol
I don't care for drugs, but he's talking about deporting us citizens.
Cope as you like.
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Your argument relies on selective incidents
Duh?
misinterpretations, lacking the comprehensive evidence needed to label Trump a fascist dictator.
Lol, no, making excuses for this shit heel requires super gold level mental gymnastics.
The claim that Trump used police to clear protesters for a photo op at St. John's Church has been scrutinized. A U.S. watchdog found that the decision to clear the area was made to install fencing, not for the photo opportunity.
Sure thing. Why was he surrounded by guards for a clear photo op hahaha.
Please show me proof that we won't be able to vote again
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vote-four-years/
He literally said it.
Drugs suck. Including weed lol
I don't care for drugs, but he's talking about deporting us citizens.
Cope as you like.
Sure thing. Why was he surrounded by guards for a clear photo op hahaha.
Maybe read all of the "I wish the shooter would have been a better shot" comments on Lemmy. Maybe that will tell you why.
He literally said it.
He says a lot of shit. Doesn't make it law or truth. So where is the proof that we won't be able to vote again? Any changes made to the constitution? How come every single newspaper in the world isn't reporting on the fact that we won't be able to vote again?
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Sure thing. Why was he surrounded by guards for a clear photo op hahaha.
Maybe read all of the "I wish the shooter would have been a better shot" comments on Lemmy. Maybe that will tell you why.
He literally said it.
He says a lot of shit. Doesn't make it law or truth. So where is the proof that we won't be able to vote again? Any changes made to the constitution? How come every single newspaper in the world isn't reporting on the fact that we won't be able to vote again?
Maybe read all of the "I wish the shooter would have been a better shot" comments on Lemmy. Maybe that will tell you why.
First term vs running for 2nd. Not the same. Also he didn't need to go to a fucking church to take a photo op.
He says a lot of shit. Doesn't make it law or truth. So where is the proof that we won't be able to vote again? Any changes made to the constitution? How come every single newspaper in the world isn't reporting on the fact that we won't be able to vote again?
Do you know what plans are? You can't seriously not see the issue with this. Will this only matter once it happens, or the fact that he is even alluding to it. Nothing matters until it happens? That's your argument? He doesn't care about the constitution, see prior ignoring the 1st amendment, and ignoring the judiciary.
It was reported on. He keeps adding more and more bull shit. Are you unfamiliar with the concept of the news cycle? You are aware the major news orgs are owned by like 6 companies right?
https://www.webfx.com/blog/internet/the-6-companies-that-own-almost-all-media-infographic/
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Maybe read all of the "I wish the shooter would have been a better shot" comments on Lemmy. Maybe that will tell you why.
First term vs running for 2nd. Not the same. Also he didn't need to go to a fucking church to take a photo op.
He says a lot of shit. Doesn't make it law or truth. So where is the proof that we won't be able to vote again? Any changes made to the constitution? How come every single newspaper in the world isn't reporting on the fact that we won't be able to vote again?
Do you know what plans are? You can't seriously not see the issue with this. Will this only matter once it happens, or the fact that he is even alluding to it. Nothing matters until it happens? That's your argument? He doesn't care about the constitution, see prior ignoring the 1st amendment, and ignoring the judiciary.
It was reported on. He keeps adding more and more bull shit. Are you unfamiliar with the concept of the news cycle? You are aware the major news orgs are owned by like 6 companies right?
https://www.webfx.com/blog/internet/the-6-companies-that-own-almost-all-media-infographic/
First term vs running for 2nd. Not the same.
Nah, you all hated him then too. That's why so much crying when you all lost to him a second time.
Do you know what plans are? You can’t seriously not see the issue with this.
Again show me proof that we won't be able to vote again. Someone saying something, or thinking about something, or laughing about something isn't proof that it's going to happen.
Show me proof that there is a law or constitutional change that says we won't be able to vote again. Or even a news article that says we won't be able to vote again.
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First term vs running for 2nd. Not the same.
Nah, you all hated him then too. That's why so much crying when you all lost to him a second time.
Do you know what plans are? You can’t seriously not see the issue with this.
Again show me proof that we won't be able to vote again. Someone saying something, or thinking about something, or laughing about something isn't proof that it's going to happen.
Show me proof that there is a law or constitutional change that says we won't be able to vote again. Or even a news article that says we won't be able to vote again.
Nah, you all hated him then too. That's why so much crying when you all lost to him a second time.
No shit we hate the felon con man. No one tried to kill though, only people that did were right wing nuts. Your lack of empathy to people crying when their lives are at risk is quite sad.
Again show me proof that we won't be able to vote again. Someone saying something, or thinking about something, or laughing about something isn't proof that it's going to happen.
1Show me proof that there is a law or constitutional change that says we won't be able to vote again. Or even a news article that says we won't be able to vote again.Again not an issue for you until it happens? Then what? It's not an issue for you that the potus even hinted at this? What happens when you won't be able to vote again? Is it a "oh no one told me?" Or a "oh well" for you? Just because there hasn't been a law passed yet doesn't mean he's not a fascist dictator. He said it, and if that doesn't bother you, it should.
I shared him saying it. And here is more for you.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-laura-ingraham-future-voting_n_66a85c2ae4b0e33a3bb7cd36
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Nah, you all hated him then too. That's why so much crying when you all lost to him a second time.
No shit we hate the felon con man. No one tried to kill though, only people that did were right wing nuts. Your lack of empathy to people crying when their lives are at risk is quite sad.
Again show me proof that we won't be able to vote again. Someone saying something, or thinking about something, or laughing about something isn't proof that it's going to happen.
1Show me proof that there is a law or constitutional change that says we won't be able to vote again. Or even a news article that says we won't be able to vote again.Again not an issue for you until it happens? Then what? It's not an issue for you that the potus even hinted at this? What happens when you won't be able to vote again? Is it a "oh no one told me?" Or a "oh well" for you? Just because there hasn't been a law passed yet doesn't mean he's not a fascist dictator. He said it, and if that doesn't bother you, it should.
I shared him saying it. And here is more for you.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-laura-ingraham-future-voting_n_66a85c2ae4b0e33a3bb7cd36
No shit we hate the felon con man.
Obviously. Guess you all shoulda came up with a better candidate so that he wouldn't have one a second time.
Again not an issue for you until it happens?
I didn't say it wasn't an issue. You stated it as fact, and I said it wasn't a fact. Because it's not.
I shared him saying it. And here is more for you.
Still no proof that we won't be able to vote in the next election. Do you any proof of constitutional changes or laws that say that we won't be able to vote again in the next election?
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No shit we hate the felon con man.
Obviously. Guess you all shoulda came up with a better candidate so that he wouldn't have one a second time.
Again not an issue for you until it happens?
I didn't say it wasn't an issue. You stated it as fact, and I said it wasn't a fact. Because it's not.
I shared him saying it. And here is more for you.
Still no proof that we won't be able to vote in the next election. Do you any proof of constitutional changes or laws that say that we won't be able to vote again in the next election?
Obviously. Guess you all shoulda came up with a better candidate so that he wouldn't have one a second time.
It's easy when Elon messed with the voting machines, as well as racially targeted voters registration lists being purged, and gerrymandering districts.
I didn't say it wasn't an issue. You stated it as fact, and I said it wasn't a fact. Because it's not.
Cause he said it. That is known as a "fact".
Still no proof that we won't be able to vote in the next election. Do you any proof of constitutional changes or laws that say that we won't be able to vote again in the next election?
If not, then say you "think" we won't be able to vote again. Because it's your "opinion," not fact. Right now there are no laws that say we won't be able to vote in the next election.My person. Trump has shown he doesn't care about laws, or the constitution. Your argument is that it has to be on the books before its a problem, it doesn't have to be a law. It's easy to make it so that you can cast a ballot and have not count, that removes your ability to vote. The fact that he mentioned it should have you FURIOUS. The fact that he said he was going to run for a 3rd term should make you ANGRY. The fact that he's ignoring the judiciary should have you out in the streets. Sitting there saying "well there's no laws" is a semantics argument.
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Obviously. Guess you all shoulda came up with a better candidate so that he wouldn't have one a second time.
It's easy when Elon messed with the voting machines, as well as racially targeted voters registration lists being purged, and gerrymandering districts.
I didn't say it wasn't an issue. You stated it as fact, and I said it wasn't a fact. Because it's not.
Cause he said it. That is known as a "fact".
Still no proof that we won't be able to vote in the next election. Do you any proof of constitutional changes or laws that say that we won't be able to vote again in the next election?
If not, then say you "think" we won't be able to vote again. Because it's your "opinion," not fact. Right now there are no laws that say we won't be able to vote in the next election.My person. Trump has shown he doesn't care about laws, or the constitution. Your argument is that it has to be on the books before its a problem, it doesn't have to be a law. It's easy to make it so that you can cast a ballot and have not count, that removes your ability to vote. The fact that he mentioned it should have you FURIOUS. The fact that he said he was going to run for a 3rd term should make you ANGRY. The fact that he's ignoring the judiciary should have you out in the streets. Sitting there saying "well there's no laws" is a semantics argument.
It’s easy when Elon messed with the voting machines, as well as racially targeted voters registration lists being purged, and gerrymandering districts.
LMAO
Cause he said it. That is known as a “fact”.
I'm not talking about someone saying something. I'm saying there is no proof that we won't be able to vote next election. You have still not shown any proof.
Let's save this conversation. then when voting time comes, will you apologize if you're allowed to vote? Or is it gonna be a "well we can vote because we made sure we stopped him from changing things" sorta thing? lol
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It’s easy when Elon messed with the voting machines, as well as racially targeted voters registration lists being purged, and gerrymandering districts.
LMAO
Cause he said it. That is known as a “fact”.
I'm not talking about someone saying something. I'm saying there is no proof that we won't be able to vote next election. You have still not shown any proof.
Let's save this conversation. then when voting time comes, will you apologize if you're allowed to vote? Or is it gonna be a "well we can vote because we made sure we stopped him from changing things" sorta thing? lol
People in north Korea can vote too, is that "democratic"?
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People in north Korea can vote too, is that "democratic"?
That's not the discussion. You said we wouldn't be able to vote in the next election. I asked for proof. You provided none, because there is no proof of that.
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That's not the discussion. You said we wouldn't be able to vote in the next election. I asked for proof. You provided none, because there is no proof of that.
As to your point, it's just what was said it doesn't matter because there are no laws. Show me the laws or the constitutional amendment.
I'm just matching your energy brah.
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As to your point, it's just what was said it doesn't matter because there are no laws. Show me the laws or the constitutional amendment.
I'm just matching your energy brah.
Show me the laws or the constitutional amendment.
There is no law or constitutional amendment that says we won't be able to vote in next election. And you have no proof that we won't be able to vote in next election.
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Show me the laws or the constitutional amendment.
There is no law or constitutional amendment that says we won't be able to vote in next election. And you have no proof that we won't be able to vote in next election.
There is no law or constitutional amendment that says we won't be able to vote in next election. And you have no proof that we won't be able to vote in next election.
As if the felon cared about laws or the constitution, what you need to tell yourself to cope brah.
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There is no law or constitutional amendment that says we won't be able to vote in next election. And you have no proof that we won't be able to vote in next election.
As if the felon cared about laws or the constitution, what you need to tell yourself to cope brah.
Again, you have no proof that we won't be able to vote next election. Because there is no proof that says that.
