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AfD is the most popular party in Germany for the first time, with a record 26%

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  • G [email protected]

    bullets and bombs

    I think arrests of leaders + breaking up the party + outlawing the party + banning people who decide to take up the mantle of/act as a declared proxy for the party and attempt to visibly pick up where they left off.

    That last one I learned from my own country''s current situation: in Romania, a crazy far right candidate came out of nowhere (on the wings of illegal undisclosed campaign donations) to win the first round, and as soon as that happened our mainstream far right party's candidate started supporting him. Then they canceled the election because of the undisclosed donations (he literally declared 0 campaign spending!) so now, in the redo of the election, this other guy is basically running as his proxy and will likely try to appoint him PM if he wins.

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    Ideally arrests and executions will be enough. I think letting fascists live out their lives in prison is too dangerous. Too many political enemies have been released historically after government changes. Hitler himself didn't even have to serve for life and was released early.

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      Liberal does not mean leftist outside of the USA. Liberal actually means what is called libertarian in the USA.

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      I have not called liberals leftist and never would. I'm not on that American brainrot.

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        Both the US and Germany want to return to their fascist roots it seems

        Decades of capitalist decay and anti-communist propaganda will do that.

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        Mass immigration into a housing shortage will as well.

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        • wahots@pawb.socialW [email protected]

          You guys gotta be more like America on the bike lanes one.

          Just have crippling, insane traffic, where it takes you three hours to move five (5) city blocks (this has actually happened to me).

          Suddenly, a new bike lane gets you across the city in 26 minutes.

          It made the bike lanes very popular, haha.

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          As an American, I don't think people will support bike lanes even then

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            US: what about one out of every two?

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            More like 1 in 3, many people didn't or couldn't vote

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              I don't think that you make a good point if you yourself make up your point. Please quote the AfD to avoid all doubt.

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              Of course. Here is an AfD quote:

              Sieg Heil! Gas the jews!

              Hope that makes it clearer.

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                No surprise considering CDU/CSU fucking up shit for the broad population from day one. They even suggested a 1000€ deductible for the health insurance.

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                Shit, in the US a $1000 deductible is what you get with pretty good insurance. My employer has a few plans and only one has a deductible below $1000.

                Not to say that's good. Just pointing out that the US has succumbed to capitalism.

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                  I read 50% of the men in Germany died in ww2 ….but yea cool Nazis what could go wrong.? Fuck around and find out I guess

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                  Who is going to fight them this time? The US and the UK are heading down the same path with the US far out in the lead and Russia is already an authoritarian state. France and Canada aren't enough to stand up against this wave of naziism.

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                    I read 50% of the men in Germany died in ww2 ….but yea cool Nazis what could go wrong.? Fuck around and find out I guess

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                    ...and after the War the allies fell over themselves to get former Nazi ministers reelected. The CDP was funded by the US State Department for decades.

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                      ...and after the War the allies fell over themselves to get former Nazi ministers reelected. The CDP was funded by the US State Department for decades.

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                      Don't forget NATO being headed up by many Nazi generals.

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                      • J [email protected]

                        Of course. Here is an AfD quote:

                        Sieg Heil! Gas the jews!

                        Hope that makes it clearer.

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                        Don't you see that false quotes undermine your position?

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                          Shit, in the US a $1000 deductible is what you get with pretty good insurance. My employer has a few plans and only one has a deductible below $1000.

                          Not to say that's good. Just pointing out that the US has succumbed to capitalism.

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                          pretty good usually mean somewhat expensive too.

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                            pretty good usually mean somewhat expensive too.

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                            Yep, costly for the enrollees and their emoyers.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              So according to you, the people who want everyone with the wrong kind of mustache to be deported, who want citizenships revoked, who want to "remove the outmoded political party system", who want to defund public media because it's "too woke", who want to gut universities, and who want to overthrow the constitutional order are not the fascists?

                              Fwiw, German law explicitly allows the government to ask the constitutional court to check whether a party behaves consistently with constitutional order, and if not, outlawing them based on that. German parliamentarians unfortunately seem to have missed the boat on that.

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                              Did you just delete my comment and reply to it so no one can see what I actually said, while completely fabricating the message of what I said? Lol

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                              • A [email protected]

                                Both the US and Germany want to return to their fascist roots it seems

                                Decades of capitalist decay and anti-communist propaganda will do that.

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                                Don’t forget about Russia. It is already there and leading in its effort to turn some countries into the same political system, making thereby these countries tries their puppets aka satellites.

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                                  I am not the one you are asking, but personally, in my honest opinion: An "emergency government", lets say with a 20 year term, removing far right parties, doing the necessary changes to massively reduce our climate impact and prepare for the ineviteable fallout from climate change and doing other reforms wouldn't be THAT bad of an idea...

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                                  It absolutely would be a horrible idea lol. wtf are you talking about?!

                                  You’re asking for a dictatorship as long as it’s one that says they’ll do what you want. If you make rules allowing for a political party to remove any competitors and install themselves in power for as long as they want, how could it possibly go wrong?. Jesus christ

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                                    It absolutely would be a horrible idea lol. wtf are you talking about?!

                                    You’re asking for a dictatorship as long as it’s one that says they’ll do what you want. If you make rules allowing for a political party to remove any competitors and install themselves in power for as long as they want, how could it possibly go wrong?. Jesus christ

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                                    No, what i am dalking about is: We WILL see a rise of an authoritarian party in germany in the near future, as we see with many countries worldwide at the moment. And i say: IF we are already doomed to have an authoritarian / fascist regime, i prefer it to be on the ecofascist side. And if there will be an opportunity for such an regime, well, i WILL support it.

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                                      Did you just delete my comment and reply to it so no one can see what I actually said, while completely fabricating the message of what I said? Lol

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                                      I had multiple reports on the comment, you know, you called people here "nazis". I don't know in what sense you feel mischaracterized though. There is no direct or indirect quote from you in there.

                                      The question still stands though: We have a group of people that exhibits a bunch of characteristics of nazis (see above). And you say that the people who don't like them are the nazis.

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                                        I had multiple reports on the comment, you know, you called people here "nazis". I don't know in what sense you feel mischaracterized though. There is no direct or indirect quote from you in there.

                                        The question still stands though: We have a group of people that exhibits a bunch of characteristics of nazis (see above). And you say that the people who don't like them are the nazis.

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                                        I’m the one being called a nazi repeatedly! Lol

                                        Also your post literally starts with

                                        so according to you

                                        And then goes on to say a bunch of stuff that I DID NOT SAY NOT EVEN HINT AT - and then you say there was no mischaracterization?

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                                          I’m the one being called a nazi repeatedly! Lol

                                          Also your post literally starts with

                                          so according to you

                                          And then goes on to say a bunch of stuff that I DID NOT SAY NOT EVEN HINT AT - and then you say there was no mischaracterization?

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                                          I was giving context on what Afd wants, and then asking, if you really think they are the good guys here. That's not a mischaracterization of your words.

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