Too soon?
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I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn't been there (which they were) they'd undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That's a hell of a way to lose a parent.
The fact that he died while in the middle of talking about trans mass shooters being a huge problem certainly makes it feel like cosmic karma at work. I struggle to give a shit about the man himself being shot dead. But I do worry about political violence... it's a very rare occasion when murdering someone sitting in a chair talking is a good idea. Not a single person in his right-wing sphere of repugnance is going to do any self-reflection and change their ways, they'll just become even more rabidly anti-everything left of Hitler. Shit like this doesn't go unanswered too often. Violence is a contagion with no cure except time, and the clock gets set back another decade every time someone retaliates. I'm sure we could chain all of these assassinations together into a causal sequence. But even if they're all independent events, the narrative-makers will be hard at work making it sound like a grand battle of the ages, so the result is the same either way.
Source: History, memory...
P.S. Any bets that the shooter was a MAGA nut? Seems to be the trend
I feel bad that piece of shit procreated.
cosmic karma at work
just-world fallacy & Hindu karma doesn't work that way
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LoL. “But he used the correct process for fascism!” You neoliberals are wild.
The Biden admin was absolutely illegally abusing immigrant detainees. You just don’t notice when it’s a Dem.
Ah, I see we have opted to move the goal post and add adhoms a classic strategy.
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have empathy for his children, who didn't ask to be born into this
and uh I guess that's about it
Does that mean you don't believe in empathy?
Sincerely believing in empathy as a guide doesn’t mean only when it’s convenient.
Empathy isn’t supposed to be convenient.For clarification, I'm not claiming he deserves empathy.
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No, I'm not lucky that you're not like me. You seem incapable of seeing nuance.
Do you or do you not think it's ok to kill people who express opinions that you strongly disagree with? Because i don't. And if you do, then you have to allow for the possibility that they will also kill you for your opinion. It's a zero sum game, and any society like that will inevitably fail.
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Do you or do you not think it's ok to kill people who express opinions that you strongly disagree with? Because i don't. And if you do, then you have to allow for the possibility that they will also kill you for your opinion. It's a zero sum game, and any society like that will inevitably fail.
Huh, yep. A concern troll.
Go be quiet while you clutch your pearls. L
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Ah, I see we have opted to move the goal post and add adhoms a classic strategy.
It’s not “moving the goal post.” We simply disagree. I oppose fascism in general. You only oppose it being extrajudicial.
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Yeah, news hasn't said he's dead yet, but the video is very gruesome. I don't see anyway he'd survive.
Very very not safe for work / lunch - click at your own risk. https://mastodon.social/@Ulfh3dnar/115181548207581457
Edit: He's dead. https://www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna230437?amp_js_v=0.1&_gsa=1#webview=1
wrote on last edited by [email protected]of course trump needed a big distraction, and now media is only focused on it right now. im pretty sure melania is a reaper, waiting til you pass so she can have your will.
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It is amazing what Trump does to distract from the Epstein files.
some on reddit allegedly had him shot, to make him stop talking about releasing the epstein files.
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The saddest thing about it all. MAGA already blaming Dems. No one knows anything about the shooter or motive. But it's the Dems fault
wanna bet MSM will drop kirk like a fly, once the shooter is RIGHT winger.
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The man lived and died by his words.
he grifted by his word, and died by his grifted words.
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The problem is he died a martyr, and someone else will just replace him. An example of some far right crazies, and fascists, debating Mr. Hasan.
It is also crazy how fast some youtubers are reporting on this.
But I agree, the U.S. is cooked. I only feel bad for Mr. Kirk's family, and not him.
the influencers, being grifters they are , just fanning the flames to get more views. Jubilee has always been seen as a right wing channel to me. the disproportional amount of right wingers, attacking some on the left is always so skewed. they would never do 20vs20 of both sides.
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It's not about him, it's about the implications of embracing actions like this. Vigilantes killing people for political reasons without due process is not justice
Not caring isn't really embracing it though, is it?
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It’s not “moving the goal post.” We simply disagree. I oppose fascism in general. You only oppose it being extrajudicial.
No, I oppose it generally. You just either don't understand the arguments or are too dogmatic.
I am willing to bet that if Trump had the military kill everyone who was more dark than a specific shade of white and then nuked California. Your opinion would still be that Biden and Trump are the same.
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::: spoiler I guess some people can change.
:::I wonder what was going through his head at that moment.
oh right, the shockwave.
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God given rights?
Didn't the British leave Britain for America to get away from the church and give themselves their own rights?
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What is given by god cannot be taken
Like your virginity.
Too late on that one, chief.
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Why desensitize a population to something that they should be sensitive about?
Cynically, I think this has already happened. That horse has bolted.
Which is your say, I do agree with your argument, I just think it's already too late to argue it.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Oh trust me, humans can get A LOT worse than now. If you think we're desensitized to violence, just wait until the real civil war kicks off. The Republicans will make you pine for the days where school shootings were the most deplorable form of daily violence...
Just look at Israel, gleefully murdering children just trying to grab fucking food. You call yourself a cynic, but you've no idea the depths of depravity within humanity.
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God given rights?
Didn't the British leave Britain for America to get away from the church and give themselves their own rights?
In the Church of England, God's authority is channeled through the monarch, similarly to how in Catholicism it is channeled through the Pope.
If you make a new deal with Him, you can get Him to give you different rights.
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No, I oppose it generally. You just either don't understand the arguments or are too dogmatic.
I am willing to bet that if Trump had the military kill everyone who was more dark than a specific shade of white and then nuked California. Your opinion would still be that Biden and Trump are the same.
That you have to invent a strawman proves my point. Their actual policies are about on par with each other. One is just closer to the fascism you’re familiar with.
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That you have to invent a strawman proves my point. Their actual policies are about on par with each other. One is just closer to the fascism you’re familiar with.
It's not a straw man. It's a hypothetical. Feel free to answer it when you want.
Also, what do you mean about policies? If Trump didn't change his policies and nuked California, would you then still say that Biden and Trump are equally as bad?
