Too soon?
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It is amazing what Trump does to distract from the Epstein files.
some on reddit allegedly had him shot, to make him stop talking about releasing the epstein files.
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The saddest thing about it all. MAGA already blaming Dems. No one knows anything about the shooter or motive. But it's the Dems fault
wanna bet MSM will drop kirk like a fly, once the shooter is RIGHT winger.
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The man lived and died by his words.
he grifted by his word, and died by his grifted words.
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The problem is he died a martyr, and someone else will just replace him. An example of some far right crazies, and fascists, debating Mr. Hasan.
It is also crazy how fast some youtubers are reporting on this.
But I agree, the U.S. is cooked. I only feel bad for Mr. Kirk's family, and not him.
the influencers, being grifters they are , just fanning the flames to get more views. Jubilee has always been seen as a right wing channel to me. the disproportional amount of right wingers, attacking some on the left is always so skewed. they would never do 20vs20 of both sides.
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It's not about him, it's about the implications of embracing actions like this. Vigilantes killing people for political reasons without due process is not justice
Not caring isn't really embracing it though, is it?
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It’s not “moving the goal post.” We simply disagree. I oppose fascism in general. You only oppose it being extrajudicial.
No, I oppose it generally. You just either don't understand the arguments or are too dogmatic.
I am willing to bet that if Trump had the military kill everyone who was more dark than a specific shade of white and then nuked California. Your opinion would still be that Biden and Trump are the same.
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::: spoiler I guess some people can change.
:::I wonder what was going through his head at that moment.
oh right, the shockwave.
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God given rights?
Didn't the British leave Britain for America to get away from the church and give themselves their own rights?
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What is given by god cannot be taken
Like your virginity.
Too late on that one, chief.
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Why desensitize a population to something that they should be sensitive about?
Cynically, I think this has already happened. That horse has bolted.
Which is your say, I do agree with your argument, I just think it's already too late to argue it.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Oh trust me, humans can get A LOT worse than now. If you think we're desensitized to violence, just wait until the real civil war kicks off. The Republicans will make you pine for the days where school shootings were the most deplorable form of daily violence...
Just look at Israel, gleefully murdering children just trying to grab fucking food. You call yourself a cynic, but you've no idea the depths of depravity within humanity.
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God given rights?
Didn't the British leave Britain for America to get away from the church and give themselves their own rights?
In the Church of England, God's authority is channeled through the monarch, similarly to how in Catholicism it is channeled through the Pope.
If you make a new deal with Him, you can get Him to give you different rights.
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No, I oppose it generally. You just either don't understand the arguments or are too dogmatic.
I am willing to bet that if Trump had the military kill everyone who was more dark than a specific shade of white and then nuked California. Your opinion would still be that Biden and Trump are the same.
That you have to invent a strawman proves my point. Their actual policies are about on par with each other. One is just closer to the fascism you’re familiar with.
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That you have to invent a strawman proves my point. Their actual policies are about on par with each other. One is just closer to the fascism you’re familiar with.
It's not a straw man. It's a hypothetical. Feel free to answer it when you want.
Also, what do you mean about policies? If Trump didn't change his policies and nuked California, would you then still say that Biden and Trump are equally as bad?
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God given rights?
Didn't the British leave Britain for America to get away from the church and give themselves their own rights?
Not just Britain and no. A lot of very religious people fled there because they were persecuted by differently religious people. That’s why the US constitution also protects freedom of religion.
Though the US constitution doesn’t seem to mention the word "god" somewhere.
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The CIA shot JFK. By accident, Oswald was supposed to just clip JFK's ear.
Can't tell if joke
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Something tells me you don't actually understand the difference between a violent campaign and a nonviolent campaign.
Yes, the goals cannot be violent. That doesn't mean violence cannot be extremely useful when applied tactfully.
Nonviolent resistance movements are more likely to facilitate transitions from autocracy to democracy, improve democratic qualities like civil liberties, transform security forces and judicial systems in rights-respecting directions, and enhance well-being measures such as life expectancy.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2452292924000365
The commonly held belief that most revolutions that have happened in dictatorial regimes were bloody or violent uprisings is not borne out by historical analysis.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_revolution
Empirical evidence strongly favors strategic, organized nonviolent resistance as the most effective path to sustainable political change.
Political assassinations are a tool of desperation. They're effective at creating instability and further violence; counterproductive for achieving lasting political goals. They fail to eliminate the ideas, movements, and structures that person represented.
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Has he tried this tho?
Did he ask chat gpt?
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Gun deaths from the son of a sheriff deputy and care worker, y'know, the typical "homegrowns".
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I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.
He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.
That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.
@surph_ninja @jballs How exactly did Charlie Kirk "terrorize" anyone? It was just words, dude! Dramatic much? Charlie Kirk engaged in dialogue. He welcomed conversation, even when he disagreed. He was killed because he called out the lunacy of our culture.
I feel like I am living in the story of The Emperors New Clothes and the people who actually call out the stupidity are being made fun of...and killed now. You need to get a grip on reality.
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The man lived and died by his words.
@mechoman444 @jballs Liberals do not understand integrity. So many are laughing because he died by one of the very rights he fought to preserve. The truth is, I don't think Charlie would change his stance on the 2nd Amendment today, if we could ask him.
What he said was true. You drive cars and there are accidents and intentional homicides regularly. Why aren't you fighting to get cars off the streets? Kids die from alcohol poisoning. Let's get rid of alcohol. Use your brains, people. #liberal
