Elon Musk makes surprise appearance at AfD event in eastern Germany

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Well, I was downvoted hundreds of times and being told by someone I had the "most moronic opinion" they had ever seen, just because I pointed out there are people in Germany who will celebrate Elon Musk doing the Nazi salute.

Do you believe me now? I am so tired of this shit. Our world is going up in flames and somehow I still need to be ridiculed by someone who I share most of my political beliefs. Come on, we are on the same side.

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"Do you think there are no Nazi sympathizers in Germany? Don't you see AfD on the rise there?

Most of the people seeing this isn't going to know the context (i.e. this is a protest). If you strip away the context, this is just a blatant public display of the fascist salute, which many there have wanted to do for so long but couldn't because they feared the consequences. This could very well embolden them.

Like, if you just look at the photo, it even straight out says "heil Tesla", for crying out loud. If this is a protest, they did a piss poor job of it. At least put a clown makeup on Elon's face, what are they even doing.

Edit: some people can't even read it seems."

Lol, no, that's not why you got downvoted. You got downvoted for saying people don't understand the context.

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Sigh, here we go again. Many people didn't try to understand what I meant by context. No I wasn't talking about the context of Elon doing a fucking Nazi salute on inauguration. Every one saw that on the news. I was talking about the context of seeing the photo of Elon Musk's Nazi salute being projected onto the side of a building.

That's what was shared here, not the news article about it being a protest, not the video released later by the protesters (which is worth watching btw). So yeah, I stand by the claim that that photo itself can be taken out of context and look bad. And in fact it is, I've seen far right assholes calling it based, and Germany is currently investigating it for its use of Nazi symbolisms.

Is that enough? That's not even the main thing my comment was about. What's even the point? Neo-nazi is on the rise in Germany, and Elon doing this shit will embolden them, and you want to talk about context.

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If it sounds like nazi, walks like a nazi, and talks like a nazi, it's just Elon Musk, the nazi.

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Like, if you just look at the photo, it even straight out says “heil Tesla”, for crying out loud. If this is a protest, they did a piss poor job of it. At least put a clown makeup on Elon’s face, what are they even doing.

You might want to put that into a quote block.

And, no, the people from the centre of political beauty are definitely not Nazis, and neither are they amateurs. They're professionals. Their list of exploits is long, and artistic, including building a holocaust memorial next to the house of Germany's highest-ranking Nazi.

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It's almost like they use elite globalist to mean something that if they said out loud would end up with them in jail for hate speech. /S

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And you were downvoted AGAIN.

Listen up people. Elon Musk is a Nazi. This country used to kill Nazis. We cannot accept him in our government. I don't care what personal hangups about this you have for some reason. Vote this shitstain out the next chance you get.

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What the FUCK

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They have some form of proportional representation so at least some of these Nazis are getting into their government

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The last try banning an extremist right wing party (then NPD) failed due to the constitutional court seeing no chance that party could implement their policies

Why should this prevent a ban?

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Because it’s not necessary to ban a party that is irrelevant and has no chance to get to any kind of legislative power. The few times the NPD won a seat in a regional parliament, they were ridiculed and no one considered working together with them.

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It is in one, illiterate dummy downvotes don't hurt my feelings.

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Your take was bad, ignorant, and condescending, and you should feel bad, cope.

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He most likely will only join via video call.

Also its very unlikely for him to get arrested in Germany

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This is in a quote block

This isn't.

This again is in a quote block

This again isn't.

Respectfully, learn to post on lemmy.

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For one: Them getting more than 20% is scary and shows we have a big problem in our country. Also them being the second-largest party in Germany is insane to me. But by itself that is not enough to get into the government, it still needs some other party to work with them.

Unfortunately the rhetoric of the CDU, which is the "just conservative" party is in my eyes pretty similar to the Afd at the moment and they are currently polling at around 30%.
CDU decided on a ban working together with the Afd at all some years ago, but it never seemed more likely they would just drop that and then a potential coalition of CDU + Afd would have around 50% of the vote. Certainly enough to form a government.
I'm still somewhat positive they would not actually decide to do that, but you know, by now I also would not be surprised anymore

As a last resort I'm banking on our "supreme court" (Bundesverfassungsgericht ) to strike down the worst things, since it still seems to be intact, unlike in the US. But courts are slow and you can do a lot of damage even with stuff that is not clearly unconstitutional...

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Nazi shows up at a Nazi event,

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They have some form of proportional representation so at least some of these Nazis are getting into their government

No. They are not getting into government unless the conservatives (CDU) build a coalition government together with these Nazis. They are getting into parliament.

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Why should this prevent a ban?

It makes no sense at all and the ruling of the supreme court enabled the Nazis to get where they are today.

First they where too small to be banned. Now they are to big to be banned because politicians fear their voters. All the while they get subsidized from our taxes and get ample time on TV and in the press because they are a legal party and they are not banned. It's crazy yet here we are.

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Because banning a party is a delicate thing. It is a dangerous tool, the last possible defence against extremist parties. Therefore it must not be used lightly, and the realistic chance to actually gain legislative power to implement extremist policies is a requirement for a party ban.

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