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I'd rather be educated by my teachers than lemmy users Thank you very much

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It's why I don't.

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Yeah. Don't give the fascists an excuse to send you to prison for a victimless crime.

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Kindly ask them about the current prognoses, like the Club of Rome one, the expected number of climate refugees in the next decades, and how well we are on track to hit any climate goal. And then about a protest form that will actually work and stop unprecedented human suffering.

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You seem to think that I don't believe or I'm not scared of climate change. I'm completely supportive of initiatives to prevent the usage of fossil fuels and pollution, however these actions have done nothing but alienate the majority of the public. If you go to the UK and ask nornal people about JSO, they'll probably have nothing but negative opinions. This form of protest will do nothing to "hit a climate goal". Vandalising art will just get you booed at, laughed at and thrown in the slammer as you rightfuilly should. These idiots simply create more human suffering as an excuse for stopping human suffering, and I don't believe in such a cause for a single second of the day. When I'm stuck in traffic for 3 hours, I'm not going to think "wow these protests are going to save the planet!", I'm going to think "these people are making me late" and that's all I care about. Sorry.

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I'm not comparing it to racism, you're taking the wrong point from that. Protests aren't supposed to make you comfortable. They are meant to disrupt, even if you are just trying to mind your own business. Not every white person in my analogy is racist or against black rights, my point was to show how dumb they would be for voicing annoyance. Climate protestors didn't ruin your life or even your day, just like sit in protestors didn't harm anyone else. You are just dramatic and have main character syndrome.

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Unhinged take what the actual fuck

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I don't know what it is about the British Isles but they produce some of the most bat shit insane takes I've ever read.
"This person made me late to school one time, so she should spend an extra month in prison." Like that is the most lead micromoles per litre of blood I've seen written in text.

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“Give me convenience or give me death”

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I think the key is who it is disruptive to. Blocking traffic just pisses off the average person. The decision makers don't care about the average person. You gotta disrupt the decision makers. But you also have to be prepared for them to fight back hard.

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Get a brain, numbnuts.

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The “disruptive protests are bad” people are straight garbage pieces of shit.

Strawman. There are no such people. You are mischaracterizing criticism of JSO methodology as criticism of their cause.

When you're protesting racism in February, 1960, do you plan a sit-in protest at a "Whites Only" diner? JSO methodology would have you picket a black-owned restaurant that caters to minorities, to "bring attention" to the problem. As if their audience had no clue that the problem existed.

When you're protesting homophobia in the 90s, do you attend a pride parade? Based on their current methodology, JSO would have slow-walk in front of a gay bar, to "bring attention" to discrimination on the basis of sexuality by disrupting attendance of that bar. As if their audience didn't already know that they were victims of homophobia.

If you're protesting the health insurance industry in the 2020s, do you "Occupy ERs", or do you Player 2 an insurance executive? Based in their current methodology, JSO would camp out in an ambulance bay, to "bring attention" to the plight of the sick and injured. As if patients didn't realize how badly they were being screwed by "insurers".

JSO (et al) is "disrupting" the general public instead of "disrupting" agents, subsidiaries, or beneficiaries of the oil industry. They are targeting the public as if the public has no clue that we are being screwed over.

JSO could be making just as big a spectacle, and bringing just as much attention to the problem by targeting gas stations, ICE car dealerships, and other public faces of the oil industry. Instead, they are "disrupting" fellow victims of that industry.

Yes, we need disruptive protests: we need the

oil industry to be disrupted.

The oil industry. Not the general public.

JSO should be driving a wedge between the transportation industry and the oil industry. Fuel stations are probably the most obvious: take action against any fuel station that doesn't offer EV charging. (Later, you can target "gas" stations that refuse to abandon there legacy pumps).

Car dealerships: target any dealer that doesn't have EVs front and center on their lots.

Muffler shops: drive them completely out of business; they shouldn't exist at all.

Some states have emission testing requirements that affect only the drivers of ICE vehicles. Disrupting the operation of testing centers prevents ICE vehicle owners from being able to register their vehicles.

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The take is completely hinged.

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Sounds like an education is wasted on you anyway, piece of shit.

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You are a dickhead.

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The blockade power stations and airfield quite often.

But those ones barely make news, let alone front page news.

Also major motorways outside a large city is much more like marching your protestors down main street in Birmingham, US or marching on a capital city, getting those city centre shut down for Blacks and Whites alike than sitting in a Blacks only eatery.

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The blockade power stations and airfield quite often.But those ones barely make news, let alone front page news.

Then they are wasting their time and shouldn't be doing that either.

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Oh, I thought targeted at oil industry specifically was what you were asking for.

They also spent 3 days disrupting one of the largest petrol company sites in the UK a few years back.
Very little media coverage, no care from the general public, no result.

The big march on Washington style disruptions at least gets something. Even if you complain.

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If their school journey required driving along the M25 their school, was, odds on, a posh twuntian egoscape. They're from money and benefit hugely from the system, but don't see it because of all that hard work they have done at some point sucking on their silver spoon.

Us British plebs don't need to drive along the capital city's outer ring road to get to the local state school.

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The big march on Washington style disruptions at least gets something.

It gets harsher sentences on jaywalking. It alienates the general public from their cause. The general reaction to obstructing traffic is for the general public to overtly support police brutality.

They would be better off with better tactics against more appropriate targets.

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Just Stop Oil protester, 78, has jail term extended after no suitable tag found

oil industry to be disrupted.