Colombia lifts ban on deportation flights after Trump tariff threat

[drolex@sopuli.xyz]

Can I grovel a bit first? I feel like I deserve some humiliation

[protist@mander.xyz]

If the Trump Admin agreed not to transport people in handcuffs, that wouldn't be a capitulation, but rather what Petro wanted. Remember the Trump Admin is going to spin literally every outcome as "a victory" while talking shit about the other guy, regardless of the reality of any negotiation outcome.

[neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I don’t agree, I think a lot of nations want to try to stay off of trumps radar for the next 4 years.

Unless something terrible happens, this should be over in 4 years.

[d00phy@lemmy.world]

I think it will be interesting to see what China does as this bullying continues. They’re already facing tariffs, so they don’t have much to lose by stepping in and picking up new trade partners as Trump pisses everyone off. Might hurt for awhile, but it was always going to. Trump could prove to be the best thing for China’s economy & global influence in the long run.

[auli@lemmy.ca]

It's funny how people think it we'll be over in 4 years. And even if it is what about the 4 after that or after that. America has just proven it is an unreliable partner again. The world should walk away. I mean it's crazy that China is more reliable at least you know who your dealing with.

[auli@lemmy.ca]

I hope and can't wait for the first country to kick America out. Like get your bases out.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

Of course it's a capitulation. You do not negotiate with Nazis. They do not keep their word.

[sarmyth@lemmy.world]

I mean... he didn't ban the flights in the first place. He just declared he would not accept his countrymen being treated poorly on return. I think the objection was packing them all in military planes instead of normal commercial flights your average person travels. It had more to do with mistreatment of their citizens in the process of repatriation, which is valid.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

The citizens will still be mistreated. Why are you just blindly trusting Trump here?

[sarmyth@lemmy.world]

Huh? What are you talking about? That's not a statement trusting Trump. The headline implies the flights were rejected. They weren't. Drink more coffee dude. It's Trump's propaganda that they were rejected.

[sarmyth@lemmy.world]

If the Nazi have grabbed your citizens, please take them back. Leaving them in the hands of Nazis is a cruelty of its own.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

How do you expect that to be achieved?

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

The flights were originally rejected. He even put out a statement on it. Then he backtracked.

[werefreeatlast@lemmy.world]

That's where Trump will send you regardless of country of origin.

[pyr_pressure@lemmy.ca]

We need to make a global Alliance where if Trump tarriffs one country, every country responds with double the tarriffs.

[pyr_pressure@lemmy.ca]

China threatened 75% tarriffs when Trump mentioned 10% tarriffs. Don't see him following through with his threat yet.

[p00ptart@lemmy.world]

Get your kinks off with someone who knows it's for fun.

[knightly@pawb.social]

After he got what he wanted from Trump, who capitulated immediately because the threat to tarrif Columbian imports was a bluff. Deliberately bumping the cost of coffee would be political suicide.

[earphone843@sh.itjust.works]

Buddy, this is fascism. Political suicide isn't a thing anymore.

[knightly@pawb.social]

The fascism persists only because it promises to be of benefit to its supporters.

Fascism falls apart when it fails to deliver them tangible benefits.

Trump's coalition is a house divided, he cannot provide his billionaire sycophants with economic benefits without taking them away from his voting base, and he can't do economic populism without disadvantaging the billionaires.

We're already seeing this with the H1-B visa debate. Musk, Zuckerberg, and Thiel want them for the cheap exploitable labor, and non-rich Republicans want the program to end for both anti-immigrant and economic nationalism reasons.