Congrats leftists!

[abidanyre@lemmy.world]

Biden or Harris would have suggested ethnic cleansing as a solution? Fucking hell .ml users are just as deluded as MAGAts.

[zarkanian@sh.itjust.works]

The leftists couldn't defeat Trump, and neither could you. What's your point?

[zarkanian@sh.itjust.works]

It was going to be a longer, more drawn-out genocide. Which is hardly an improvement.

[zarkanian@sh.itjust.works]

Are you kidding me? You don't see Democrats all over this thread throwing their moral superiority in our faces?

[zarkanian@sh.itjust.works]

They didn't endorse it. They just supported it. Hell, Biden even bypassed Congress multiple times to send even more weapons.

[zarkanian@sh.itjust.works]

My solution is to break from both corporate parties and vote Green.

[recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee]

We won't get to know now. Now we get exactly what everyone told you about in the months leading up to November.

Where is Jill stein?

[recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee]

(They are the same)

[zarkanian@sh.itjust.works]

In most states, there was at least one anti-genocide candidate on the ballot.

[abidanyre@lemmy.world]

Fuck that. You don't get to blame the DNC or Biden or Harris for a choice that YOU made. Every single person who was eligible to vote this election was alive to see Trump's last term. The best majority had the ability to read Project 2025. If you didn't know exactly what not voting was going to get us, that's your fault.

[mouette@jlai.lu]

You're blaming voter for not voting one for one of the political parties that is precisely the corrupt entrenched power structure you are mentionning ... Then stating election don't fix shit but still blaming ppl for not voting for Democrat ?

[mothmandelorian@lemmy.world]

The democrats at least voted for the candidate that was not promoting fascism. Those that withheld their votes to retain a sense of moral purity have a role in Trump’s victory that those who voted against Trump do not share.

[zarkanian@sh.itjust.works]

I don't owe Democrats my vote. They have to earn it. Apparently, those voters did not think that Harris deserved their votes.

Now, I do think that you should vote in every election. There were multiple candidates from alternative parties that were against the genocide. If those candidates had gotten the votes instead, that could've really made a difference.

[constantpain@lemmy.world]

Holy Mother of Displaced Blame...

[mothmandelorian@lemmy.world]

Ok so this is what Im talking about when I say that “at least when Im being taken to a death-camp you can tell yourself you did the thing that agreed with your morals”

And this is why so many leftists are not actual allies of the LGBTQIA+ community because when their idealism is faced with reality they choose to sacrifice the vulnerable populations for their idealism.

[hadriscus@lemm.ee]

Every single spared life, every single stab at a better life would have been an improvement

[peregrin5@lemm.ee]

As leftists like to say to justify their one-sided attacks against Democrats: "Republicans are going to Republican".

Leftists know this and still decided to do all they can to make sure they give the reins of power to Republicans yet again to "punish" Democrats when all their privileged white asses are doing is punishing lgbtq, poc, and Palestinians despite their use of their issue to justify not voting Democrat.

But no war but class war right?

[explodicle@sh.itjust.works]

How many were there?

[kava@lemmy.world]

From what I gather, you're making the insinuation that the people who refused to vote for Kamala due to her (and Biden's) support of Israel are responsible for Trump and his heavy-handed approach.

I'd retort by stating that Israel has killed near 100k Palestinians and reduced most of the territory to rubble all while Biden's administration had been sending bombs, guns, tanks, missiles, and money.

The main difference between Trump and Biden on this issue is how loud and open they are about it.

Is there a difference between discretely supporting apartheid or openly supporting apartheid? Probably, in an intellectual sense. But what difference does it make to the tens of thousands of Gazan widows?

[mouette@jlai.lu]

I didn't make any choice I'm French lol.
I'm just explaining to you how it works, you can keep blaming ppl for not voting rather than politics for not having actual program that make people vote for them. That way you make sure to not hold politics accountable after all they can do whatever they want and do nothing as long as the guy in front of them say worse shit. Just look where you went until now