Gustavo Petro responds to Trump: “Overthrow me…the Americas and humanity will respond”

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

It won't be done humanely regardless and I have no idea why people think it will. That's my biggest issue here. Trusting a Nazi to keep his word.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

What else do I want? Nazis to not ethnically cleanse? But I'm gathering that I am in a minority here unfortunately.

[cypherpunks@lemmy.ml]

Wow, a lot of people emotionally disagree with that quote. You can tell because 30+ down voted and you maybe see 1 of them commenting to take a stance.

Cowards who are afraid of reality deserve no respect.

Maybe... it got all those downvotes because it was a ridiculous thing to post in reply to an article which is simply reporting facts without any bias whatsoever, and posting that comment here in this context appears to be an attempt at discrediting Petro (who is, in fact... a leftist ...watch out) in response to his standing up to to Trump?

And maybe all those other people downvoting it didn't bother replying because I had already posted my reply (which adequately pointed out the absurdity of it) right after the comment was posted?

[zalgotext@sh.itjust.works]

Brother what else is Colombia supposed to do to prevent an ethnic cleanse in an unfriendly state, other than sending planes to rescue their people from that state? Do you want them to declare war on the United States or what?

[cypherpunks@lemmy.ml]

I used that link to look up the source. It wasn’t here so I posted it here. I do the same with archive links.

Do you post MBFC links on articles from outlets they classify as "unbiased" too, or just the "biased" ones?

As others have pointed out many times before, the entirely flawed premise behind MBFC is that centrism correlates with credibility and/or factualness.

I didn’t report this and don’t have a problem with it.

cool

In general, the fact that they don’t disclose the country they operate out of is problematic

Who doesn't disclose where People Dispatch operates out of? MBFC? Yeah, they don't, because they're lazy hacks who's job it is to impugn the reputation of anyone doing any journalism that isn't in service of the status quo.

since we can’t know if they’re operating from a place where telling the truth is illegal.

A couple minutes of research shows that (although their contributors are all over the world) their legal entity People's Dispatch Ltd. is registered in New York. So, I guess actually you might be on to something here

Edit: I should also say that it’s important they’ve never failed a fact check. I don’t really care about them having editorial bias as long as we know what it is.

The notion that any outlet could have no bias in what they decide is and isn't worthy of reporting on, especially the people MBFC says are unbiased, is ridiculous. And it's usually not difficult to see what an outlet's bias is without relying on a 3rd party using their own bias to classify someone else's.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

Now there's an idea. Do what the U.S. did to them.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

I've spent a good time of my day going back and forward with you exactly because I want to understand with you keep defending Colombia cooperated with fascists when they did not.

They had people there, in need of help, in the hands of very bad actors.

What were their options? Abandon those people? Become as bad as the fascists in the process? Worst, in my view. A fascist is an enemy, someone who abandons their kin is a traitor of the worst kind.

What was Colombia supposed to do, in your view? Give me a straighforward answer, not a circular comeback as you have been giving. Blurting you do not want nazis to ethnic cleanse is not an answer to my question.

The fascist american regime (not Nazi; that was the late National Socialist Party of Germany) is currently expelling foreigners by force. I am sure many have already died but we are not seeing mass graves and killings of elements of certain population groups. Be intellectualy honest, please. I am engaging in good faith.

No one here is saying they support that cadre of criminals. No one is attacking you or your position.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

I was pretty sure I gave you a straight answer multiple times, but apparently everything I say is wrong lately, so I guess this is just one of all of those times.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

That was unnecessarily cruel towards yourself.

Have I been engaging you in bad faith? Have I resorted to insult or personal attack? If so, that was uncalled for and I sincerely apologize.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

You won't accept my answer so obviously my answer is wrong as usual.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

Because I don't see this exchange as win/lose situation I can only state, again, that I find your statement unnecessarily cruel towards yourself.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

And yet it's true.

[zalgotext@sh.itjust.works]

You'd save a lot of pointless back and forth in threads like this if you just say what you mean, instead of making people drag it out of you bit by bit.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

I thought I did say what I meant, but apparently whatever I say, as usual, is stupid and wrong and worthless.

So maybe you and everyone else should just tell me to fuck off and never talk to any of you again. It's probably for the best.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

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[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

I'm too stupid to know what that's supposed to mean, but I'm sure whatever it means I deserve it.

You're free to tell me to fuck off and die too, it's also what I deserve.

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

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[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

Yes. Seriously.

You're talking to someone who's lesbian daughter is going to end up in a conversion therapy camp because he's too much of a fuckup to take advantage of emigrating to the UK because he was stupid enough to think he could actually save her life.

I mean I don't know why you keep talking to me, but...

[qyron@sopuli.xyz]

Why will that happen? And what has changed so you can't take advantage of moving to the UK?

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

Why do you care? Anyway, I am in the UK already. I'm just fucking it all up like I fuck everything up. And when we run out of money and have to go back to the U.S. and she gets put in a camp, it will be my fault.