Sam Altman said startups with only $10 million were 'totally hopeless' competing with OpenAI, DeepSeek's disruption says otherwise

[homesweethomemrl@lemmy.world]

[dragontypewyvern@midwest.social]

I'm sure Altman forcing out all the actual brains on the board of OpenAI, like Chief Research Scientist https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Sutskever, has nothing to do this or their rapidly declining lead in the field.

[damage@feddit.it]

You say that like Hubbard wasn't brilliant, morals notwithstanding

[paraphrand@lemmy.world]

I find the online cheerleading for AI and AGI strange. It feels like a frothing mob rooting for the unleashing of a monster at times.

[shittybeatlesfcpres@lemmy.world]

It’s easy to write a bot. You just ask ChatGPT DeepSeek for the code.

[allonzee@lemmy.world]

Id say their lead is over.

Im enjoying all the capitalist oligarchs losing their minds over Deepseek destroying the piles of money they were already counting in their heads.

[avidamoeba@lemmy.ca]

but doesn't DeepSeek's ability to harness less lower quality processors thereby allow companies like NVIDIA and OPENAI to reconfigure expanding their infrastructure's abilities to push even further faster?

Not that much if the problem is NP-hard and they were already hitting against the asymptote.

[imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works]

Or if you have access to click farm type propoganda resources

[yerbouti@sh.itjust.works]

The fact that you can run it locally with good perfomance on 4+ years old machine (an M1 Max for example), is not exactly a good news for them. I think deepseek just made their 500 billion investment project, which was already absurd, incredibly stupid. I'm gonna say it again, the GAFAM economy is based on a whole lot of nothing. Now more then even, we can the web back and destroy their system. Fuck the tech-bros and their oligarch friend.

[shittybeatlesfcpres@lemmy.world]

I kind of suspect this is as much about A.I. progress hitting a wall as anything else. It doesn’t seem like any of the LLMs are improving much between versions anymore. The U.S. companies were just throwing more compute (and money/electricity) at the problem and seeing small gains but it’ll be awhile before the next breakthrough.

Kind of like self-driving cars during their hype cycle. They felt tantalizingly close 10 years ago or so but then progress stalled and it’s been a slow grind ever since.

[demesisx@infosec.pub]

The reason for the correction is that the “smart money” that breathlessly invested billions on the assumption that CUDAis absolutely required for a good AI model is suddenly looking very incorrect.

I had been predicting that AMD would make inroads with their OpenCL but this news is even better. Reportedly, DeepSeek doesn’t even necessarily require the use of either OpenCL or CUDA.

[zetta@mander.xyz]

Not only would it be the greatest irony, it would be the best outcome for humanity. Fuck ClosedAI

[sudo42@lemmy.world]

There is no downside to lying these days. Yet the public seems surprised that all they see is lying.

[fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de]

I think with a lot of technologies the first 95% is easy but the last 5% becomes exponentially harder.

With LLMs though I think the problem is conflating them with other forms of intelligence.

They're amazingly good at forming sentences, but they're unable to do real actual work.

[fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de]

I think I saw a post about exactly this.

[radau@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

So many people don't even question it. Talk loud and confidently enough and that's the bar for most unfortunately.

TikTok, Instagram and similar are great examples of this, initially you think wow cool I'm seeing all of these new things and getting so much info. Then you see someone come up on a topic you know something about and the facade breaks when all they do is spew misinformation that attracts a crowd (usually via fear).

[4am@lemm.ee]

And then the hordes of sycophant DinkDonkers repeat their detritus over every comment thread they can

[futatorius@lemm.ee]

How about that: venture capitalists don't know what's going on in the market any more than anyone else does. They're just arrogant because they have metric shit-tons of money.

[futatorius@lemm.ee]

...if you get a solution at all.

[futatorius@lemm.ee]

He sure as shit wasn't a brilliant writer. He was more endowed with the cunning of a proto-Trump huckster-weasel.