25% of New Car Sales in China Were 100% Electric in 2024! - CleanTechnica

[buffalox@lemmy.world]

Only one of those is an actual EV, the others are different forms of hybrid.

[shiggles@sh.itjust.works]

A plug-in hybrid is kinda like you built a BEV and an ICE into the same car - I wouldn’t say that one should be called all electric, but it’s at least capable of pretending to be one.

[buffalox@lemmy.world]

A plug-in hybrid is kinda like you built a BEV and an ICE into the same car

Absolutely, which is why it's neither electric or ICE, it's a hybrid.

[threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works]

What is the difference between PHEV and EREV?

[sabrew4k3@lazysoci.al]

I thought EREV were just electric vehicles with extra large batteries.

[madnificent@lemmy.world]

Did not look thus up, do verify if necessary.

EREV is a BEV with a backup engine. PHEV is mainly a combustion engine vehicle with a limited electric drivetrain bolted on.

EREV powers a generator to drive the electric drivetrain. The electric drivetrain is the only drivetrain and must thus provide the full functionality. The intent is to drive fully electric and have an emergency backup. Markets place maxima on the amount of fuel the fuel tank may carry in some markets (eg: 10L).

PHEV has the dino burning engine drive the wheels and an electric drivetrain. The battery can be charged. The electric drivetrain often doesn't provide the full functionality (eg: it has too limited power and and may be limited to low speeds).

[madnificent@lemmy.world]

To my understanding EREV, like the i3 pictured in models with the optional ICE, is mostly driven on battery power with the generator as a backup. It doesn't even provide full power when running on the generator whilst the battery is low. I don't know of examples of EREV without a battery or with a tiny battery which would be classified as EREV but would like to see examples. I know of some studies showing lowered fuel consumption but nothing for consumers.

I would understand your frustration towards EREV in the cases where it's mainly burning fuel as that's indeed not BEV at all.

[buffalox@lemmy.world]

The EREV systems I know of, charge battery exclusively from the gas engine, not even a plugin option. This means an EREV at least CAN be 100% powered by gas, meaning it's more an ICE car than an EV.

[madnificent@lemmy.world]

Can you share some examples?

[buffalox@lemmy.world]

Sorry the concept I described is what was called Self charging EV, which especially Toyota pushed. EREV is very similar but not the same.

[hypeerror@sh.itjust.works]

60% of the time that headline is confusing everytime.