Greenland is testing Europe's willingness to stand up to Trump. It's failing | Nathalie Tocci

[theoriginalthon@lemmy.world]

Crippling tarrifs you say, a quick Google says Greenland export $36M to the US in 2022, which is basically nothing. And don't forget the people who pay the tarrifs are the American people not the country the tarrifs apply to. Just because someone says I want to buy that, it doesn't mean it's for sale. The only way the US will get Greenland is by invasion and occupation. So the EU response of ignoring the giant toddler is probably the correct move.

[valar_morghulis@jlai.lu]

This. And by replying we would acknowledge that the subject as any matter. We say more with this silence.

[shaun@lemmy.world]

The tariffs would be on Denmark or even possibly Europe as a whole.

[hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works]

Nothing good has ever come from just trying to ignore a bully.

[punnyname@lemmy.world]

Dictator day 1

He's been declaring war without using that actual word. But history has showed time and again this is literally war.

I fucking hate that man.

[docus@lemmy.world]

Probably tariffs on the entire EU. I don’t think tariffs on Denmark would work, as it’s trivial to route Danish exports to the US through another EU country.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

It'll be funny if this is how WWII starts and we get EU + China vs US + Russia.

[smoothoperator@lemmy.world]

No-one is ignoring him. The Danish diplomacy corps is on high alert, and tons of effort is going into both securing support from Europe and trying to talk the US down.

They just don't do diplomacy through Twitter. Public mud-throwing is Trump's game, no need to fight him on his terms.

[hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works]

There is a need to fight tho. I understand the world is used to using diplomacy first, but if the last few years has taught us anything it should be that current rulers the world over don't listen to it at all. They want what they want and will take it no matter the cost.

Trump has learned all he needs to know from Putin.

[smoothoperator@lemmy.world]

It would be naïve to fully rely on the old way of diplomacy, but it would mean certain defeat to do business on the terms of authoritarians. Trump wants unilateral, flashy diplomacy, because that's where he wins. Small countries like Denmark need to work to bolster multilateral large-alliance rules based diplomacy, because that's where they win.

By not rising to the bait, but instead presenting a calm, unified European response that there is no way Trump can buy Greenland, but that they're happy to help him achieve whatever policy he's using to justify this invasion talk, they at least have a chance of staving him off long enough that the whole thing fizzles out.

This approach also makes it a lot harder for Trump to actually make good on his threats. He'll have to start a conflict with the whole EU, and he'll end up looking like a guy who pisses on a cooperative ally rather than the strong man who beats down uppity foreigners.

And yes, that's probably also fine by him, but it at least doesn't play into his hand.

[realitista@lemm.ee]

Yes. Don't feed the troll. A lot more people need to learn this.

[realitista@lemm.ee]

Living in Europe, I'm more concerned about it being US+Russia+China against the EU at this point.

[mrkawfee@lemmy.world]

Both Putin and Trump want to break up the EU so they can pick off individual countries.

[mrkawfee@lemmy.world]

And Netanyahu

[tyler@programming.dev]

Do you mean WWIII?

[x00z@lemmy.world]

What a bullshit article is this.

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/nathalie-tocci
That's quite some fearmongering.

[obi@sopuli.xyz]

What a twist, the movies write themselves.

[thebat@lemmy.world]

This troll it's fed enough, when is diabetes going to do its job?

[bstix@feddit.dk]

Correct. He can't put a tariff specifically on Denmark at all.
The only way to target Denmark specifically is by putting a tariff on goods that are exclusively made in Denmark.
That would be a bad idea, since the main export to USA is medicine. The Americans are already moaning about the price of medicine, so it'll interesting to see their reaction if Trump raises the price further for no good reason.