Debian is Ditching X (Twitter) Citing These Reasons

[emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works]

Debian already has an ARM version. Do you mean some Qualcomm drivers are missing? There are already Ubuntu ROMs for Android phones, so this shouldn't be an issue, right?

[xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

yeah, it’s so inconvenient to not directly support the nazi platform

[mitm0@lemmy.world]

Good, now if only OpenSource devs switched from Discord to let's say Matrix/XMPP

We'd be partying

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

Its that social inertia, and I get it.

I ran a neighborhood group's social media, and even after FB turned openly shitty, I had to stay on there, because thats where people are.

I mean, I could have pushed the org to drop them, but then we would have lost the eyeballs of thousands of neighbor's we're trying to work FOR.

Same deal with Twitter, they've just gotten to the point where most NPOs lose less by leaving than they would by staying.

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

If I ran an org, that needed to reach a community of say... 1000 people in need, and 900 of those people were ONLY on twitter, guess what?

That org needs to be on twitter, even if President Musk is profiting from it. Otherwise, the org would be remiss in their mission.

[grrgyle@slrpnk.net]

God I hope I live to see the day. Discord at first appears like a good IRC wrapper, but the XP of actually using it is fucking gross.

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

ok, that's just hilarious

The equivalent of IE being the last one to move to the fediverse lol

[xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

nice hypothetical but no

[utopiah@lemmy.ml]

Yeay, Debian user here who also left Twitter/X for similar reasons. I was already on Mastodon and Bluesky but didn't make a habit out of it. Leaving the bad platform entirely (and having my data archived and searchable) helped a lot.

Glad to hear they moved on!

[gofsckyourself@lemmy.world]

This is a great example of where linking to a blog post about an announcement is better than linking to the announcement itself:

after digging a bit deeper, I discovered that there was originally a longer, more detailed announcement that was later scrapped. I found it in a GitLab commit made by Jean. [Link to GitLab comment in article]

Good job, itsfoss.com

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

Not really a hypothetical though. Its the very reason I kept a non-profit's account on twitter, and facebook, and instagram, for as long as I did - Because we HAD to in order to effectively hit the mission for the non profit.

[ericjmorey@programming.dev]

Unfortunately the accounts listed under Social network accounts of Debian teams and Social network accounts of Debian contributors are almost exclusively Twitter accounts.

[ericjmorey@programming.dev]

Matrix and XMPP don't even pretend to be Discord replacements.

[ericjmorey@programming.dev]

That doesn't explain why they don't start a transition by posting to both the new platform and the old. And not including links to their new account on their websites.

[mitm0@lemmy.world]

But they are replacements

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

If we're swapping out discord, please just go with Zulip... It's FLOSS, and has a solid company backing it that actually cares about FLOSS (They even bought the product back, after it was sold to a company that was enshittifying it)/

[mashedtech@lemmy.world]

go back to forums. Support in discord is awful. Discord is not as searchable as a forum public on the internet

[xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

sounds lazy, uncreative, and ineffective

[lambda@programming.dev]

How is it feature wise? Parity with xmpp/matrix? Better?

[dojan@lemmy.world]

Yeah, forums please. I hate the idea of troubleshooting information being locked behind some stupid software we can't easily index and search. Forums can be put on archive.org, you can literally print a page, or save it as a PDF for reviewing later. You can make use of bookmark software like Linkwarden to archive things.

Discord? Not so much. You can use third party software to scrape it and save information, but no search engine can index it. Community building is great, but I loathe having to trawl through tonnes of blithering blathering conversation BS just to figure out where to find firmware for a particular chip I have is.

Makes me want to projectile vomit all over the place, throw my computer out the window, and move to convent.