Which instances have the most diverse points of view?

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Small, niche communities, and unfortunately you'll probably need to know what ideas you're interested in ahead of time to get there.

People with intelligent but divergent ideas are always outnumbered by people pushing an agenda, and they end up getting moderated together because it's hard to know the difference superficially.

Note that it's entirely possible to have an echo chamber that's divergent from bigger echo chambers, and that's were a lot of people are pointing you, because of the instance you asked on.

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It was actually a Trotskyist faction, itself against AES, that led to a breakdown between the Anarchists and Marxists in Spain. The Marxists remained the only supporters of the Anarchists. Seems you did forget.

As for "slavery," by this definition taxes are slavery and public services are slavery. Marx already went over how workers cannot own all of that which they create in Socialism directly, as from a given worker's production needs to be deducted necessary maintenance of administration, social services, and more in Critique of the Gotha Programme. By your definition, Socialism is slavery. Further still, the Soviets were never disbanded, and there were still Unions. Your history is off again.

What "contradictions" do you believe led to the collapse of the Soviet Union? How was the revolution "betrayed?" What "freedoms" did the workers give up? This is all vague and vibes-based.

You still didn't elaborate on how Marxism is "akin to fascism." I'm aware of the term "red-fash," it's a ridiculous term and I linked you a book thoroughly explaining why. I can't force you to read it, nor can I force you to make a coherent point.

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I'd say that's more of an energy consumption and willpower thing than being a "father of Marxism" for the fediverse. Further, @[email protected] would have that title anyways as the lead dev of Lemmy itself. I wouldn't call the Marxist instances "echo chambers," living in Capitalist countries in general are already echo chambers, it's the Marxist communities that challenge the echo chamber.

As a side note, did you read Blackshirts and Reds?

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Your constant insistence that I'm incoherent is acerbic and I have no patience for it.

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Fair enough, but I think that goes both ways. You usually make a claim, then when pressed act vague about it. I admire your work on the Piracy communities and your FOSS development quite a bit, but I don't think you act honestly when it comes to political conversations, such as jumping to labeling Marxists "fascist" without elaborating.

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Not bro

It's the Marxist communities that challenge the echo chamber.

And by so doing become echo chambers of their critiques. Anywhere on the internet that is saturated with those who think alike is an echo chamber.

As a side note, did you read Blackshirts and Reds?

I read a bit. I haven't really been able to get through it cuz i have exams coming up. So i should get to it when those are over.

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Don't know what you're saying about Dessalines.

As for "echo chambers," they don't exist devoid of context. An "echo chamber" mirroring the positions of the status quo upholds it, while one going against the grain disrupts the status quo. They aren't equally "echo-y."

Good on you for starting Blackshirts and Reds, good luck on your exams!

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I'm saying bro is not all that.

They may not be equally echoey but they're still quite echoey and often deafeningly so.

good luck on your exams!

Thanks!

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What kind of diversity of thought are you looking for?

Could you give an example?

Is there an intellectually honest point of view that Donald Trump isn’t a fascist?

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I don't think he's a fascist necessarily, although he is a far-right, authoritarian ultranationalist. So that makes him... oh.

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Yes yes we know the lies told about it. Again, people can go and read on their own about the slaughter of anarchists that happened there.

I didn't call Marxists fascists. I called Lenin's and Stalin's regime red fash.

And I don't act vague, I just don't have the patience to reopen 100 old debates

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"Lies?" It's on Wikipedia, lol. As for Marxism, I genuinely don't know what mythical form of Marxism you think is "real" Marxism in your eyes, again, read Blackshirts and Reds.

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Links to Wikipedia Wikipedia talks about an anarcho syndicalist. Whatever man

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An "anarcho-syndicalist" that a year prior tried to join the White Army, and a year after did join the White Army. Some "anarchist."

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Is db0 left wing? I felt like they lean closer to .world than left.

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And that supports your argument how exactly? Oh no! Humans are flawed and can make weird decisions afternoon massive trauma? Not to be mention 1 man is not sailors. Quickly grasp at the end first excuse to validate your slaughter. As red Emma said at the time, "Trotsky protests too much...."

To anyone still reading, this sort of truth stretching to defend the indefensible is why I don't trust campists

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You're defending a Tsarist that tried to deliberately sabotage the Soviets during a bloody Civil War, and later joined the Tsarist army as a means to kill more Soviets, as "weird decisions after massive trauma?" Won't anyone think of the poor, poor Tsarists, woe are they...

To mirror you: To anyone still reading, this sort of truth stretching to defend the indefensible is why I don’t trust campists

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Keep peotesting too much as well. No anarchists believes this garbage but we remember...

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They claim to be anarchist and I've seen a lot of users from there criticize Democrats, although they hate Marxists also, so I'm not sure

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> Let's imagine China arming and supporting Mexico's opposition parties that align with China.

if that happend I'd support mexico in it's efforts to ally itself with china (if that's what the mexican people want)

> U.S would go into a fit and invade Mexico instantly. Same has been happening in Ukraine for a decade before the war started.

you're just proving my point here, Russia is just as bad as the US

> You need to also take in account that Russia has been invaded countless times from western powers.

russia in it's current form hasn't been invaded, except if you count ukraine, but russia invaded ukraine first

> Russia's geography is also mostly flat plains, making it easy to invade Moscow from the west. Historical context need to be taken to account.

so I can shoot someone because they have an advantage and COULD hurt me?

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Which instances have the most diverse points of view?