Proton's very biased article on Deepseek

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

We're running it at work on a Mac mini with 64GB RAM (48GB for the GPU), and while it's a little slow, it works fine.

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

Exactly.

Also, none of the article applies if you run the model yourself, since the main risk is whatever the host does with your data. The model itself has no logic.

I would never use a hosted AI service, but I would probably use a self hosted one. We are trying a few models out at work and we're hosting it ourselves.

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

That will take a few weeks most likely.

That said, there's no way to verify what happens once the data leaves your machine, and the client isn't that interesting. I certainly won't trust any ai hosted by a third party because of that reason.

[mitm0@lemmy.world]

Now this is something people can be mad at

[mitm0@lemmy.world]

DeepSeek is opensource (unlike ClosedAI)

[kbobabob@lemmy.world]

I eee this everywhere. They published the weights. That doesn't make it open source

[kbobabob@lemmy.world]

Can't it be run standalone without network?

[rogue@feddit.uk]

The same is also true of ChatGPT. On the surface the results are incredibly believable but when you dig into it or try to use some of the generated code it's nonsense.

[febra@lemmy.world]

Tutamail is a great email provider that takes security very seriously. Switched a few days ago and I'm very happy.

[evotech@lemmy.world]

This focuses mostly on the app though, which is #1 on the app stores atm

We know it's censored to comply with Chinese authorities, just not how much. It's probably trained on some fairly heavy propaganda.

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

I certainly think it's cool, but the further you stray from the beaten path, the more newly janky it gets. I'm sure there's a good workflow here, it'll just take some time to find it.

[lemmus@szmer.info]

They are absolutely right! Most people don't give a fuck about hosting their own AI, they just download "Deepsneak" and chat..and it is unfortunately even worse than "ClosedAI", cuz they are based in China. Thats why I hope Duckduckgo will host deepseek on their servers (as it is very lightweight in resources, yes?), then we will all benefit from it.

[mitm0@lemmy.world]

Ok correction noted, It still makes DeepSeek look better

[heavydust@sh.itjust.works]

When the CEO praises Trump, says China bad because China while hiding that occidental AIs have the same kind of censorship, that’s hypocrisy.

[heavydust@sh.itjust.works]

Billionaires are really pissed about it, I’m happy.

[ulrich@feddit.org]

failing to make it clear that the reason people love Deepseek is that you can download and it run it securely on any of your own private devices or servers

That's not why. Almost no one is going to do that. That's why they didn't mention it.