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  • O [email protected]

    Switching from WhatsApp to any other messaging service isn't a realistic option for quite many places. I'd be more than willing to switch but of all the people in my contacts (including my entire customer base) there's like 3 people using Signal but every single one of them has WhatsApp. Even the 60+ year olds.

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    This doesn't help.

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    • R [email protected]

      It's not an alternate way to view Youtube, it's a totally separate service. You're not missing anything, if no one's using it to post content, then there's no content. Youtube is a tough one to compete with because the infrastructure needed to host that much data and distribute it is insane. Peertube is super niche and not many know about it, but I do wonder how fast scaling would become a problem if it suddenly got an influx of new users.

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      Apart from that, it has to compete against the content monopoly Youtube has on the video platform

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      • E [email protected]

        Loops will be open sourced later they say.

        Is Loops open source?
        It will be! We plan on open sourcing the platform after it reaches a stable and easy to maintain state.

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        Loops is anti-libre software confirmed.

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        • O [email protected]

          Switching from WhatsApp to any other messaging service isn't a realistic option for quite many places. I'd be more than willing to switch but of all the people in my contacts (including my entire customer base) there's like 3 people using Signal but every single one of them has WhatsApp. Even the 60+ year olds.

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          There is always SMS for these.

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          • P [email protected]

            Hidden inside the whatsapp->signal box in tiny faint font. I was wondering why there isn't a big "Discord -> Matrix"

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            Bad on-boarding

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            • F [email protected]

              Yes finding the right instance on peertube is a nightmare — and also the general lack of quality content, or subtitling, which makes it as good as useless for deaf people like me.

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              Yeah, it is already hard to find reasons to use it for the average user, so people with disabilities (deafness, blindness,intellectual etc.) probably even have reasons to NOT use them (no subtitles, each instance might have different elements or structure that might be a nightmare for screen readers, it might be too complex for some people, etc.).

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              • N [email protected]

                I'm surprised this hasn't been said yet... but what I hate most about Signal is its requirement for a phone number. I don't want to be identified, and I want to be able to create multiple separate accounts with different identities if I want to.

                I also hate the fact that it's a mobile-first service. Yes, there is a desktop application (and just one really crappy one at that), but it's clearly designed to revolve first and foremost around your phone and be virtually impossible to use without one. As someone who hates writing on a 3-inch screen, this is a also non-starter for me.

                I understand the arguments about perfectionism, but this is too much. I'll stick with XMPP, Matrix and IRC, thanks.

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                I’ll

                That's why Signal's spreading and your not.

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                • M [email protected]

                  Where is matrix?

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                  Right in the Signal box, it says "Or Matrix/XMPP". It's super tiny for some reason.

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                  • S [email protected]

                    They used to allow their client to be used to send unsecured SMS. Then they stopped. Whatever they thought they were doing, they killed the simplest path to onboarding laypeople they had. I kinda gave up on signal after that.

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                    No ones paying for SMS.

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                      There is always SMS for these.

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                      Hey, wouldn't it be great if Signal still supported SMS?

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                        Wouldn't Matrix be a better alternative to Signal, since it doesn't need a number and the main/default instance (matrix.org) is based on the EU? Maybe it has a too difficult learning curve to the average user, though

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                          There is always SMS for these.

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                          At least WhatsApp is encrypted and let you have propre group chat

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                          • E [email protected]

                            Loops will be open sourced later they say.

                            Is Loops open source?
                            It will be! We plan on open sourcing the platform after it reaches a stable and easy to maintain state.

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                            That means very little to me. Actions speak louder than words, and it would probably help the development of loops if it was actually open source.

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                              Hey, wouldn't it be great if Signal still supported SMS?

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                              Personally I see no benefit in it.

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                              • merlin@discuss.tchncs.deM [email protected]

                                How is it a ghost town if there is a new video someone posts like every 10 minutes?

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                                Are you kidding me?
                                I thought it was more than that when I called it a ghost town.

                                Imagine if in the entirety of Lemmy, in all channels of all instances, there was a total of 6 posts per hour, and none of them were in channels you wanted to subscribe to.

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                                • pseudo@jlai.luP [email protected]

                                  At least WhatsApp is encrypted and let you have propre group chat

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                                  It's a scam, anti-libre software.

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                                  • elrecoal19_0@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                                    Wouldn't Matrix be a better alternative to Signal, since it doesn't need a number and the main/default instance (matrix.org) is based on the EU? Maybe it has a too difficult learning curve to the average user, though

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                                    Matrix isn't fediverse though. It is Federated but uses its own protocol

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                                      Matrix isn't fediverse though. It is Federated but uses its own protocol

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                                      Well, Signal isn't federated either, and doesn't have a fediverse-like technology like Matrix does...

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                                      • L [email protected]

                                        Great graphic! The only things I use on this list are reddit and youtube. Trying peertube now. I'm confused about whatsapp and facebook messenger - don't people just use the texting app that comes with their phone?

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                                        No one pays for SMS.

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                                        • N [email protected]

                                          Here Revolt is suggested as an alternative to Discord which looks quite similar.

                                          https://retro-gaiden.com/@Oregon_Pacifist/113929785493554770

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                                          No end-to-end encryption

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