Happy #GlobalSwitchDay
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Is Threema still a good option? Anyone know?
My personal opinion is that Threema is still a viable alternative to WhatsApp. The app is open-source, there's even a 'libre' variant on F-Droid. The service is proprietary though. The jurisdiction (Switzerland) seems more trustworthy currently. I don't really understand the business model of Threema: It seems like they have some revenue from a commercial service "Threema Work". The initial cost for purchasing an app license does not really contribute to sustainability I guess. I suspect it is more for making scams more expensive. I hope they can be sustainable from that and don't need to start doing shit.
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Scan a QR isn't difficult, there are also tantum links
With Signal you just have to install the App and make an account to start chatting with your friends and family. SimpleX requires me to send a link or QR code to everybody I want to interact with. You will have a hard time convincing anyone to do that. Compare that to the first Twitter exodus, people chose Bluesky over Mastodon because picking a server was 'difficult'. The average person doesn't care about technology at all and will always pick the path of least resistance.
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I find youtube to be the hardest one on this list
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Signal is open source. They absolutely do always comply with US warrants. They have never provided any information to US law enforcement, because they can't access it. They literally have no way of accessing the information contained inside the texts. The most they could provide is metadata, but they currently aren't collecting that. I also think if they started, it would not work well for their user base. You can see all their requests for information, and the responses they gave, here: https://signal.org/bigbrother/
I really hope they stand strong. We need some influential entities standing up to the shit going on.
Sadly, given the current situation in the US I have to assume that the Trump gang will sooner or later try to crack down on Signal. Who knows, forcing them to give out meta data to identify dissidents etc.At least the open-source app makes me hope that there's a little less nasty things they can do than Facebook/Whatsapp.
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How is signal considered part of the fediverse?
Yeah it's a bit off if we're emphasizing a switch to fediverse specifically and not better alternatives in general.
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Not outside the US.
It's free in the US, so there's ~360 million potential users they decided to make things harder for
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I get that, its basically just going back to the model we had before with Teamspeak/Mumble/Ventrilo where the image is meant to be specifically about Federated alternatives/
You're right. It does not fit the initial picture.
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Things I've learned: the people in this community hate bluesky on principle, their principles are insular and toxic, and they can't read.
This is why people aren't going to mastadon more than Bluesky; because y'all're insufferable. I made the comment in context of the post, so why would you ignore it?
Okay my bad let me make another comment saying
"Signal isn't federated"
There happy?
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You're welcome
(btw, nice username)Yeah they've tried to make it as similar as whatsapp. But it's hard convincing your entire family to switch again after signal just because you found a cool new app to switch to, lol
I know, I’m not even going to try. I can already hear the crying and gnashing of teeth.
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So far it's been a wildly better experience
Based on what? It’s not like you can immediately notice if your data is being stolen.
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I find youtube to be the hardest one on this list
Agreed as peertube is great the creators i enjoy to watch dont upload there
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I support the cause in general but: Signal is not federated at all. It may seem like a decent alternative to WhatsApp but is it really? It still falls under the same US jurisdiction. Let's say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case? I don't think so. Sadly i can't name a much better alternative. Maybe matrix. But it has other issues.
There is also simplex chat
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I find youtube to be the hardest one on this list
Youtube is the only one on this list that I use and I only use it with an ad blocker.
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Is Threema still a good option? Anyone know?
I use threema with family but getting others to use yet another app (especially for thin social connections) is difficult.
Depends on your threat model though, I guess.
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The fact that you or anyone thinks that matters is part of the problem. Not every federated site needs to be federated with every other federated site. That's half the point of federation.
The post says "fediverse" which by its very name implies they are all interconnected.
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With Signal you just have to install the App and make an account to start chatting with your friends and family. SimpleX requires me to send a link or QR code to everybody I want to interact with. You will have a hard time convincing anyone to do that. Compare that to the first Twitter exodus, people chose Bluesky over Mastodon because picking a server was 'difficult'. The average person doesn't care about technology at all and will always pick the path of least resistance.
It require literally a minute, also creating an account isn't a thing people like to do.
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SMS is so ass, I can’t even.
Then it's official. SMS is so ass, one cannot even.
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PeerTube appears to be completely devoid of content
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Based on what? It’s not like you can immediately notice if your data is being stolen.
Based on the interaction with the app. The features are extensive. There's no ads. My data has most likely been leaked by American companies anyways, so what's the big deal?
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You now understood both my point and the OC’s, I hope.
Signal is not federated.
