Bluesky now has 30 million users.

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What annoys me is that people are buying the idea that BlueSky is federated.

Not only is it not federated, the very architecture they designed means that it's probably not federateable, at least not by normal users.

The way they designed it, a relay is required to collect and forward every single BlueSky post. That means, as the service grows, it becomes more and more impossible for anybody but a company to run a relay. Someone did some calculations back in November when it was a significantly smaller network, and they calculated that at a minimum it costs a few hundred dollars, possibly as much as 1000 bucks a month just to handle the disk storage needs for a relay on a leased server. The more the network grows, the more those costs skyrocket.

What good does it do to have a network that theoretically can be federated, but practically costs so much to run a single node that nobody except a for-profit company can manage it?

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Can I get the icon in cornflower blue?
https://youtu.be/4NomQYQK1bE

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I find this weird. If someone were to send your private information to someone via physical post, is the post company responsible for that too?

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You say that as if any Mastodon instance was guaranteed to last several years.

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You mean the alternative where a random person decides what people you’re allowed to interact with?

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Yes that's what they mean. I tried to persuade against meaning that.

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Are people running megacorps not random persons deciding what you can view or not, but with extra wealth concentration?

And the beauty of federation is that the process is (and is evolving ever more into) a bit more democratic with easier transitions or irrelevancy of what your home fedistan is.

With megacorps you don't have even the theoretical option, you can just move to an entirely new platform.

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I guess it could allow multiple funding models. Instance A is ad supported, instance B is a paid service. Not exciting for us self hosters, but there is possibility there.

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Sounds like the protocol equivalent of regulatory capture.

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Mastodon and the fediverse are nerd shit with massive usability issues. Even I gave up on Mastodon and I would consider myself far more willing to put up with shit than the average user will ever be. The mass will - never - migrate to the fediverse and in many ways, especially looking at moderation issues, that is probably a good thing.

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He was the founder… I did not know he had left.

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That's not what I asked.

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Weird, I had a bluesky add-on
on my experimental friend's installation and have not noticed any messages other than the ones people I followed participated in.

I have since deleted it, so cannot figure out what they have done differently.

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Well I know someone tried it against Valve and they ended up removing the requirement.

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This is wty we need social networks where you can choose your moderation independently of your instance. And Mastodon is not that. I’m not sure if Bluesky is.

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This is correct.

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People are atleast getting used to the @username@instance thing through bluesky atleast... That would make mass exodus to fediverse in future easier (if that ever happens)

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the issue with that is the fediverse isn't the easiest thing to sign up for. and the fediverse needs explaining pre-sign up for most people.

listen I have both bluesky and mastodon so I get you. but for now, bluesky is at least not the platform of an angry nazi man child. (at least not yet).

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I'm not familiar with Blue sky, do they advertise as federated or how exactly do they claim to differ from a regular platform like original Twitter?

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About a million active users each month

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Bluesky now has 30 million users.