In shock announcement, Trump says U.S. wants to take over Gaza Strip

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"The gang saves Palestine"

Cue sunny intro

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It's a world filled with people who believe what feels good

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It's not a genuine question, it's just another excuse to deflect responsibility. Why are we responsible for our actions, words and constant rhetoric? Its these other people who are to blame, that we knowingly supported with our actions.

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I guess we know where you stand then.

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Frankly I'm getting sick and tired of every story about Gaza being filled with smug comments blaming everything on liberal Lemmy members. Biden was a shit candidate who was losing badly before Gaza ever happened. Harris was a golden opportunity to pivot the Biden campaign into something that stood a chance of winning and instead Harris ran on a campaign of "I'm exactly like Biden but a little younger" which is the most gobsmackingly stupid decision of a political campaign in at least a couple decades.

Harris didn't lose because of Palestine. I mean it didn't fucking help, but there were plenty of other reasons she lost. So can we please stop with all the annoying smug "are you happy with what you did?" comments? It's getting really fucking old.

Now for what I actually wanted to say.

Besides billionaires and straight, white, conservative, "Christian" men, I honestly don't know who benefits from a Trump/Musk presidency as compared to a Harris/Walz presidency.

Only billionaires are benefiting. Straight, white, conservative, Christian or even men, none of those groups in any combination is benefiting. They may not be getting shafted as hard as others are, but only billionaires are going to see anything even remotely positive out of this.

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Sorry hearing "We told ya so" is so irritating to you. The collective focus will shift over time.

You're right, Harris absolutely lost because she wasn't good enough. But yeah, people are going to remind you that the alternative is worse, so that hopefully we can avoid this if there ever is a next time.

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There's a lot of frustration at the segment of the population who 1) vocally said that Harris would be just as bad as trump in regards to Gaza 2) loudly argued that failure to listen to them in regards to Gaza would cost the Democrats the election, and 3) said that anyone who was willing to vote for Harris despite not perfectly walking the line in regards to Gaza was a supporter of genocide. "The lesser of two evils is still a vote for genocide", and "it's not like it can be more genocide" are both things that have been said to me.

So, according to the people in question: yes, they are that numerous. I'm incredibly sad that I seem to have been right, but also fuck you to all the absolute assholes who accused me of supporting genocide because I'd rather the president get a middling cease fire and shamefully keep sending munitions to Israel than have us actively send troops to ethnically cleanse Gaza. Congrats! You got what you wanted! No more war in Gaza, because we're going to finish it now.
Even if they're in they're not large enough to matter, electorally, they were consistently aggressively smug and superior to anyone who said that maybe trump wasn't going to be the savior of the Palestinians, as evidence by his explicit words.
It's cathartic to be mad at people who were condescending towards you when they were wrong, even if you'd rather not be right, purely because they called you a bad person for wanting the same thing but thinking their way to get it wouldn't work.

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Hmm, I'm worried to find out if we're talking a Fahrenheit/Celsius kinda scale where our expectations become negative at some point, or if it's more of a Kelvin where absolute 0 is the destruction of planet earth or life as we know it.

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From my perspective, that's "our" second civil war

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Kushner condos for everyone!

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After seeing this sentiment expressed for the 50th time on similar threads, I’m more convinced than ever that: 1.) Many Democrats prefer beating up their left flank to actually opposing Republican ideology, 2.) Many Democrats are somehow pleased that the genocide is proceeding in this fashion because they both get to genocide Palestinians and beat up on their left flank. If Kamala had won, they would have only been able to enjoy half of these pastimes.

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He’s just saying out loud what Biden and Blinken were already planning in 2023:

Plan to force Palestinians to Sinai yet another Biden disaster

This crisis could result in displacement across borders and higher regional humanitarian needs, and funding may be used to meet evolving programming requirements outside of Gaza, including Israel, West Bank, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt.

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In other news, Trump would like to grab women by the pussy legally. Can someone please chime in on this with a comically long text wall explaining why he would never do that only to find a strange mans hand all up in your business tomorrow morning and you go to the police and they tell you its legal since last night while also grabbing you by the pussy?

Some of them want to abuse you. Some of them want be abused by you. But now legally! Well, I don't known if now now...I mean, the guy still has to rename Mexico to New Florida and deport Indians to African, Filipinos to China and Puerto Ricans to Mexico. And probably would want to test a nuclear weapon in Cuba to see if it effects people that look like people. The guy is busy. So busy in fact that god is still writing up the stuff he did on the first week.

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We have to look at the positive side: from now on, every day will be the best¹ day of the rest of our lives!

1.— Least worst, truthfully, but it works out the same, more or less.

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There was a poll of non-voters who voted four years ago. The number one reason they gave for not voting was the genocide in Gaza at 29%. I was surprised by this, but yeah you can potentially say she lost because of Palestine.

I agree she was a shit candidate who, if anything, aimed to the right of Biden. I still voted against Donald Trump. I'm not here to gloat at all, but look at the situation the world is in now.

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This is what almost every legitimate progressive voice I knew did.

It is what I did.

It is what every leftist I know did.

When will libs understand leftists are serious in their coalition building and stop existentially questioning the trustworthiness of our intentions?

Disagree with me, lets talk policy, let us hash out together the 1000 ways things were able to get this bad... but *please fucking STOP categorically calling into question our intentions or ability to make the necessary play none of us are excited about. This is baby stuff, leftist discourse discusses this stuff constantly.

The people who didn't turn out to vote weren't highly informed leftists and more importantly weren't the kind of people who give a shit about hearing what terminally upset leftists had to say. If you think Sam Seder, Emma Vigeland, Krystal Ball and Kyle Kulinsky, The Rational National, Benjamin Dixon etc... had an impact on unengaged low information voters you are making an absurd leap of thinking... and they advocated for voting for Harris anyways, go back, check the receipts.

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It's funny because millions of people did vote, but it was never counted. And like 2020... These uncounted votes are proven

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Take a sip, if you dare.

Don't threaten me with a good time.

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I did misinterpret you, and I agree with what you're saying in this comment, but I don't think people like Harris, Biden, or Clinton are on our side in this war, nor are the party leaders who pushed them on us.

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On what? It's all crazy. "We're going to invade Gaza" is just as insane as "we're going to put 18 year olds in charge of the Treasury", "eliminate the department of education" or "win the war on diversity".

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In shock announcement, Trump says U.S. wants to take over Gaza Strip