You Can’t Post Your Way Out of Fascism | Authoritarians and tech CEOs now share the same goal: to keep us locked in an eternal doomscroll instead of organizing against them
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I'm talking about a guy
Since you're refusing to back up your stance I take that to mean you've resigned from the argument and that you agree with me.
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Since you're refusing to back up your stance I take that to mean you've resigned from the argument and that you agree with me.
Back up my stance of "you're talking about it" when you begin your comment "I'm talking about it"?
I really don't see a reason to "back that up" any further. You did all for me.
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After working with computer software most of my life I've come to understand that if success relies on people 'paying attention to something, making an informed decision and then performing an action' that it is nearly impossible to get the desired outcome more than half the time.
We're so fucked.
Also in that field, but… I think you have to acknowledge that being, usually, in your example 1) at work and 2) on a computer, make people that much less interested in giving a shit. Compare to various systems people use in their free time, and you probably see that people are pretty good at attending to the things they think matter.
Capitalism, or, at the very very least, unfettered capitalism, are the real problem, not people writ large.
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Back up my stance of "you're talking about it" when you begin your comment "I'm talking about it"?
I really don't see a reason to "back that up" any further. You did all for me.
I see you have the memory of the goldfish so I'll recap the discussion for you.
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User above stated we need more luigis
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I brought up the fact that Luigi 1 accomplished nothing
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You retort that we are talking about it
So either your response was completely pointless and off topic or you meant it as evidence that Luigi 1 accomplished something. What did he accomplish? How does talking about it change anything for anyone?
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If there’s one thing I’d hoped people had learned going into the next four years of Donald Trump as president, it’s that spending lots of time online posting about what people in power are saying and doing is not going to accomplish anything. If anything, it’s exactly what they want.
Many of my journalist colleagues have attempted to beat back the tide under banners like “fighting disinformation” and “accountability.” While these efforts are admirable, the past few years have changed my own internal calculus. Thinkers like Jean-Paul Sartre and Hannah Arendt warned us that the point of this deluge is not to persuade, but to overwhelm and paralyze our capacity to act. More recently, researchers have found that the viral outrage disseminated on social media in response to these ridiculous claims actually reduces the effectiveness of collective action. The result is a media environment that keeps us in a state of debilitating fear and anger, endlessly reacting to our oppressors instead of organizing against them.
Cross’ book contains a meticulous catalog of social media sins which many people who follow and care about current events are probably guilty of—myself very much included. She documents how tech platforms encourage us, through their design affordances, to post and seethe and doomscroll into the void, always reacting and never acting.
But perhaps the greatest of these sins is convincing ourselves that posting is a form of political activism, when it is at best a coping mechanism—an individualist solution to problems that can only be solved by collective action. This, says Cross, is the primary way tech platforms atomize and alienate us, creating “a solipsism that says you are the main protagonist in a sea of NPCs.”
In the days since the inauguration, I’ve watched people on Bluesky and Instagram fall into these same old traps. My timeline is full of reactive hot takes and gotchas by people who still seem to think they can quote-dunk their way out of fascism—or who know they can’t, but simply can’t resist taking the bait. The media is more than willing to work up their appetites. Legacy news outlets cynically chase clicks (and ad dollars) by disseminating whatever sensational nonsense those in power are spewing.
This in turn fuels yet another round of online outrage, edgy takes, and screenshots exposing the “hypocrisy” of people who never cared about being seen as hypocrites, because that’s not the point. Even violent fantasies about putting billionaires to the guillotine are rendered inept in these online spaces—just another pressure release valve to harmlessly dissipate our rage instead of compelling ourselves to organize and act.
This is the opposite of what media, social or otherwise, is supposed to do. Of course it’s important to stay informed, and journalists can still provide the valuable information we need to take action. But this process has been short-circuited by tech platforms and a media environment built around seeking reaction for its own sake.
“For most people, social media gives you this sense that unless you care about everything, you care about nothing. You must try to swallow the world while it’s on fire,” said Cross. “But we didn’t evolve to be able to absorb this much info. It makes you devalue the work you can do in your community.”
It’s not that social media is fundamentally evil or bereft of any good qualities. Some of my best post-Twitter moments have been spent goofing around with mutuals on Bluesky, or waxing romantic about the joys of human creativity and art-making in an increasingly AI-infested world. But when it comes to addressing the problems we face, no amount of posting or passive info consumption is going to substitute the hard, unsexy work of organizing.
literally just don't doomscroll, go read my recent post over in eudaimonia.
You literally just don't have to do it lmao.
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I agree.
"Planet's burning up, another genocide, fascism on the rise... ugh... where are the funny memes."
Apathy is the greatest tool of the oppressor.
Apathy is the greatest tool of the oppressor.
apathy is the tool of the strong in the times of the weak.
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Doesn't really work once spaces are established. Most of reddits problems aren't the admins, it's the volunteer subreddit mods which function just the same as lemmy.
Remember, there were plenty of rounds of moderator purges on reddit, especially when subs would lock down in protest. Any mod with ethics and a backbone would've been shown the door. So I think it's fair to say a lot of the moderation problems were at least in part caused by the admins.
At least on Lemmy, different instances have different ethoses, so communities can be more in line with the instance they're on, and there isn't this need for absolute centralised conformity.
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I see you have the memory of the goldfish so I'll recap the discussion for you.
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User above stated we need more luigis
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I brought up the fact that Luigi 1 accomplished nothing
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You retort that we are talking about it
So either your response was completely pointless and off topic or you meant it as evidence that Luigi 1 accomplished something. What did he accomplish? How does talking about it change anything for anyone?
I brought up the fact that Luigi
Still talking about it.
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I brought up the fact that Luigi
Still talking about it.
Man we get it, you don't have an argument. You don't need to keep reminding us. It's hard, we understand, not everyone can display mental competence on every subject.
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Agree, best thing we can do is starve their platforms and deny them advertising revenue. Just delete our accounts.
I don't know, i was thinking about it and it seems like they would love it if we would just unplug like that, because then we couldn't reach the majority of people because they're only using those platforms. I fucking hate psyop bullshit for making me have to question every single fucking thought like that.
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Violence is bad. And it won't help anyway, unless it only makes things worse and society even more divided, leading the country into cycles of endless dictatorship.
The only way to get rid of illegitimate leaders is for at least 50%+ of the entire country to get together and protest all the way to Washington.
There is another way - if it's in your power, don't obey the regime in any way.
That's the whole point of dictators - they come in when some economic crisis starts and/or the people are fragmented.
By the way, dictators thanks to the fact that people are divided, and continue to rule. And also political apathy and social conservatism are only to the advantage of dictators, so they should have been regarded as evil from the beginning
Ignoring all the times that violence did in fact help won’t help.
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Man we get it, you don't have an argument. You don't need to keep reminding us. It's hard, we understand, not everyone can display mental competence on every subject.
Are you talking about Luigi and what he did?
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literally just don't doomscroll, go read my recent post over in eudaimonia.
You literally just don't have to do it lmao.
I’ve stopped. Blocking certain terms helps tremendously. I’m also avoiding what few news shows I watched.
I know we’re fucked. I’d rather be happy for a while before they drag me to a camp than miserable.
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It did break down the barriers for those less technical by bringing the conversation to a web browser that was certainly more accessible as opposed to a terminal, for better or worse.
I beg your pardon, but what about web forums? I don't think anything technical was required with those.
They were good, but is there good forum platforms nowadays that are mobile friendly, have apps etc.?
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Are you talking about Luigi and what he did?
I tried but you don't want to.
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I tried but you don't want to.
"Making people all over the world speak about something doesn't means anything", he said
You're a wellspring of irony, my little muppet.
Like aside from just being objectively wrong in whatever garbage you we're going on about earlier.
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Enjoy, loser. ;>
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Not enough ammo...
They have the popular vote, most gun nuts are right wing. And they have the military, most of which voted trump. Are there even enough people who are left of center to fight against that?
That’s just what they want you to believe. Most of the country does not support the capitalists. Support for Luigi remains bi-partisan.
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Except you won't, because you are already coping on Lemmy
I'm on lemmy. Just got back from working with firearms at my camp today.
Turns out some mags need oiled, a dead scope battery (no extras on hand!), new shotgun strikes light, need to adjust the trigger pull (again), new 10-round AR mags are a dream, not sure about the red-dot, but it puts steel on target as far as I'm able to shoot.
As always my Colt 1911 Government Model is flawless with every mag. Compact Ruger 9mm fired flawlessly, hard to aim a 2.75" barrel. About my crappiest gun, the Taurus Spectrum, actually ran perfectly. Weirder things have happened. (It always runs perfectly, just jams on the last round, every time.)
Rotated out some old ammo, had more than I thought! Guess I was being extra conservative on holding.
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Except you won't, because you are already coping on Lemmy
For sure. This is all hypothetical. No real threats of violence here.
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I'm not sure how it is possible to produce merely average people though? Anyway, even if humanity itself were to not change, the world around us still does. Perhaps one day aliens will show up, assuming that climate change doesn't kill us all in the moderate term future. Just like all those species of animals and plants and such that we've driven extinct: they lasted so long, but then could not survive us.
So I would argue that we always should remain strong... it's just that the definition of what that even means will constantly keep changing, in response to our circumstances.
But, Stoicism, yeah - it's literally all that we can do, so let's do that.:-)
I’m not sure how it is possible to produce merely average people though?
Not getting excited with global solutions and utopias. At some point in my 12-15 I considered libertarianism a far wiser ideology than the rest due to this, but then noticed how there are libertarian utopias emerging for all tastes. Panarchy (that's not yet a thing), agorism (that to some extent is, with cryptocurrencies and internet connectivity) and maybe something else.
Any wise construct stops being wise if you rely on it too much.
So people thinking "correctly" are not those you want to have, people familiar with good things, but not invested too much, are.
If you build a construct (say, in a game like Civilization) with -7 modifier to fascism, then the humanity will regulate to that and negate the modifier. Then your construct crumbles, and the humanity gets +7 to fascism. Was it really a good idea in the first place then?
So I would argue that we always should remain strong… it’s just that the definition of what that even means will constantly keep changing, in response to our circumstances.
And that means that trying to remain strong we'll waste effort in all directions instead of having some when needed.
But, Stoicism, yeah - it’s literally all that we can do, so let’s do that.:-)
Stoicism is about spending effort where you should and not spending when you shouldn't. It's not pure inaction, it's the way to do less nonsense.
