They're clogging exhaust pipes with foam: Russian sabotage in Germany to discredit the Greens?
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Why would a tactic that's deliberately designed by successful professionals to depress support for environmental causes, for pretty obvious reasons if you take a look at it, be a good thing to employ?
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The tactic disables vehicles. If a vehicle needs to be disabled, and expanding foam is handy, Bob's your uncle.
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Can they come and do it around here to all the cars with twatty exhausts?
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Thanks for idea!
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No it doesn't. This tactic disables vehicles for a few minutes, until someone fixes it, and is likely to produce a permanent opposition in the person whose vehicle was minorly vandalized to anything activist or environmental.
Green Party people getting elected, and then enacting policies which curb emissions or reduce dependence on ICE vehicles, disables vehicles.
Of course, if you were talking about some other kind of activism which is designed to more permanently disable certain vehicle for certain specific reasons, there are a lot more semi-permanent ways of doing it than this. This is tailor-made to be useless and annoying, which is why the Russians liked it so much, and made sure to leave a card by the Greens taking credit for it.
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That's actually quite good promotion for me: If russia goes to this lenghts to depress support for the greens, they are doing something right. If Putin doesn't want them to be in power, I very well would like to have them there
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You should also know that the person you're talking to was talking up the Greens in the US, saying that it makes perfect sense for people to support them instead of Democrats and saying we needed to reform things to try to get them in power, back when that was the electoral message that would produce a particular impact on the electorate. It's only in Europe that they have nothing good to say about the Greens. They also contrasted Trump's environmental policies favorably to Biden's, who they said was causing all kinds of environmental problems.
https://ponder.cat/comment/332122
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Of course, but that's because you know it was the russians. The average voter might think the Greens and/or their voters are dumb/assholes, that "Russia did it" is just an excuse, and therefore shouldn't vote them
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They literally found the specific people who did it, and found the trail of evidence that led to the Russians, and the explanation for why the Russians didn’t want the Greens in power.
Yeah, I have as much trust of the German government as I do the Russian government. The idea that someone working in the GRU or whatever is trying to do regime change by texting people asking them to spray foam in people's exhaust pipes is absurd. If I believed they actually did this, I would not be able to take the Russian CIA seriously.
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I had interpreted the same way as them too lmao
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Talking them up in the US makes perfect sense if you are a Russian bot, because it steals voters from Democrats and makes it more likely for the GQP to win
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idk, I can't think of any use apart from "giving enviromentalists a bad image", except for it being a minor inconvenience. Salt in the fuel is way more inconvenient
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Nobody said you have to pin it on environmentalists.
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If you like this idea, you might like the idea of putting salt on fuel (if you manage to get to the fuel tank); it makes the fuel filter fill qickly and choke, so no fuel passes to the engine, and it's way harder to solve than some cheap foam on the exhaust.
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No, but there aren't as many people that serve as scapegoats for messing with combustion cars as easily as them
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For just $4.99, you can have a tool that can functionally disable any number of things:
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Banned, thanks for the research.
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Check the Tyre Extinguishers
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The damaged vehicles often had stickers with the image of the Greens' candidate for chancellor, as well as the slogan "Be greener!". That's why investigators initially assumed that climate activists or Greens supporters were behind the foam attacks.
I don't get why they would assume the attackers were Greens supporters when it was cars with stickers supporting the Greens that were being damaged?
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The stickers were placed by the attackers.