Is PeerTube dead or is discoverability bad?

[lost_my_mind@lemmy.world]

This is the issue with federated youtube. It should ALL be federated, and all searchable, mandatory.

Now if I the user decide I don't want to see an instance/video/creator, I should have two options.

Block - Used for when content offends you. It has zero place being in your feed.

Not Interested - Used when content isn't offensive per se, but you really don't care about it either. It's not completely blocked from your feed, but it's certainly not getting first dibs to show up from now on.

This leaves one thing that some may feel is an issue. Lets say there were a small dicked loser who did nazi salutes in public, and wanted to upload hateful content. Lets give him a random name for the sake of simplicity. Let's call him.....Elon. Hypothetical name.

So lets say small dicked Elon, starts uploading hateful content. On youtube you would report him. On peertube, since he owns the hosted server, you'd be reporting him to himself. Which is as you can imagine, useless.

So from here, you block them, and then you never have to see their hateful content ever again.

Because their rise, only comes from people giving these people attention.

[ulrich@feddit.org]

It's both horrible discovery and a limited number of creators.

100%. I created my own instance and set it to auto-follow other instances. There's like 975 or something and still not really much interesting. Can confirm TILVids also denied my federation request.

I'm doing my part by uploading my own videos

[mesamunefire@lemmy.world]

I created [email protected] in case anyone finds channels, videos, ect that they like. Maybe we can help with the discovery!

[ulrich@feddit.org]

Try the app, it's a little better

[kingjalopy@lemm.ee]

I had the exact same experience including the videos you linked to. There was nothing to be found.

[prof_wafflez@lemmy.world]

Yeah that’s been my experience with most of the fediverse so far. It’s not going anywhere unless someone comes up with a solution to the discoverabilty problems.

[muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee]

I think peer tube federation is opt in not opt out like most other services.

[rimu@piefed.social]

Nice channel, I've just added it to https://piefed.social/topic/wholesome to help people find it.

[roofuskit@lemmy.world]

Which is silly because most instances will auto mirror your YouTube channel. Literally takes no effort to post to both.

[roofuskit@lemmy.world]

I couldn't even get an account on the instance I most wanted because they seem to only give accounts to creators. So now I cannot follow anyone on that instance, or like their videos, or comment. So I have to figure out what other instance I can get an account on and follow from there, hoping they federated with each other.

[roofuskit@lemmy.world]

Not if you want to subscribe to a channel, or interact with videos in any way.

[e0qdk@reddthat.com]

As someone who watches gaming footage on PeerTube, I've mostly interacted with single creator instances -- i.e. either the creator themselves is self-hosting it or it's run by a fan as a non-YT backup of their Twitch/Owncast/whatever VODs. Those instances generally do not allow anyone else to upload.

Discoverability sucks but the way I've found them is by using SepiaSearch and looking for specific words from game titles. I imagine the way most other people find them is that they already know the content creator from Twitch and want to find an old VOD that isn't archived on YT (e.g. because of YT's bullshit copyright system) -- but that's just a guess.

[roofuskit@lemmy.world]

Haha, good luck.

[notfromhere@lemmy.ml]

You say that yet Google search / Internet search is very much a big thing. For the record, I agree with you.

[lost_my_mind@lemmy.world]

I'm not entirely sure what you're saying. Google owns youtube. If you're saying people search google, and then click the youtube link results, I mean, yeah, people do that. But it's not a necessity. I can go to youtube, and search straight from youtube. I CAN search from google, but it's not a requirement like it is with peertube.

[notfromhere@lemmy.ml]

PeerTube doesn’t have search at all? Yea that is kind of nuts. I’ve had bad search experience across Lemmy and Mastodon as well. I wonder how much is due to decentralized nature of the servers, the federation aspect, or just poor search functionality.

[ulrich@feddit.org]

Yeah it is a major work in progress but discoverability is better and you can use Sepia search from within it.

[lost_my_mind@lemmy.world]

Peertube has a search, but by default it only searches it's own instance. Instance owners can choose to federate with other instances, but thats a choice they need to enable.

You can use outside searches to search all of peertube, but it's not a given that you can on peertube directly.

[mesamunefire@lemmy.world]

Excellent. I hope we will all enjoy it.

I'll work on a logo and other stuff

[notfromhere@lemmy.ml]

I’m not opposed to a microservice that indexes the fediverse for creating a robust search index. Without it, you’d have to nearly search each server on each service.