Germany: nearly 90% of voters fear manipulation

[leisesprecher@feddit.org]

change my mind!

It's not social media, it's media.

Social media are somewhat faster, but if you watch TV or read news here in Germany, the discussions there and reality on the have almost zero connection. We're discussing completely absurd proposals to deport refugees, while most people are much more afraid of their landlords or can't get a doctor's appointment.

The media completely fails at questioning power. They're just repeating what politicians say or demand, knowing that 90% of that is straight up against the constitution.

[howru68@lemmy.world]

It's also funny, that you got a complete explanation of how perspective works to your previous question which was like a joke... Talking of perspective..;)

[devopspalmer@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Is this fucker trying to take over every county in the world by proxy or what?

[leisesprecher@feddit.org]

In all of these countries the moderate parties failed the people.

Globally, there was a slow redistribution away from the middle and working class since the 70s. Moderate parties were complacent or compliant, they got a few vanity projects in place, but overall just administered the status quo.

Now we're at a point where the theft of wealth reached a level that seriously threatens the livelihoods of ordinary people. I can't speak for other countries, but Germany is simultaneously grinding to a halt and falling apart. It's scary.

The left has no answers, unfortunately. They're busy with identity politics and academic debates and nothing. Trans issues for example are in themselves important, but if you're a worker who doesn't know how to pay rent, a left party that puts trans issues at the top of their priorities isn't exactly super appealing.

The moderates failed at preventing the downfall. The lefties are busy addressing niche issues and ignoring issues that don't fit their view.

The alternative is a far right that doesn't even hide behind nice words, just hate hate hate. And even though their program would fuck most of their voters, hate prevails.

[brightcandle@lemmy.world]

When fake news as a concept appeared a bit over a decade ago it was all about the traditional media and the lies and narratives they formed in their articles. That same media tried to spin it as about the satire sites like newstrump and most recently their entire spin has been about social media being the cause. I think social media has caught more because its clear to see that some users are spreading a lot of misinformation and you can see others falling into the trap but really what legitimises it all is what the media does and does not platform.

[samus12345@lemm.ee]

[mooglemaestro@lemmy.zip]

If there are any germans out there reading this, it's not to late to enact strong policy. America failed to do so and I fear the repercussions of not taking the threat seriously have only just begun.

[mutilationwave@lemmy.world]

I first heard it on NPR. They were referring to Trump's lies in the 2016 campaign. Two weeks later his team had co-opted the term and used it as a two word reply to anything going against their narrative.

I'm totally amazed that they pulled that off so well. It's sad of course, set us down the path to "alternative facts" and is still used as complete dismissal of an argument without even giving it a chance.

[luigisuperfan69@lemm.ee]

not gonna change your mind, you’re right.

[ms_lane@lemmy.world]

1984 intensifies

[akasazh@feddit.nl]

I'm sure all of those will vote contrary to those doing the manipulation, right? -Padme