US approves $7.4bn sale of more weapons to Israel used to ravage Gaza

[auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Ok but you’ve opted for the much much worse ethnic clensing.

[fahoobamagoo@sh.itjust.works]

Excuse is a different thing altogether than a vote. One is a state of mind. The other impacts who is president and brings that administrations actions into reality. Anyone who did not vote Democrat is responsible for the net difference in those outcomes. A vote is not a protest.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

Okay this was an interesting and informative read but it does nothing to contradict my point. The article is arguing that America didn't do enough to stop the genocide in Sudan, not that it's in any way directly supporting the RSF.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

What are you even talking about now?

This is what I said:

I guess only one genocide matters. But then that’s been clear to the Sudanese for years now.

That has nothing to do with supporting anyone. Exactly the opposite. People who need support are getting none. Because their genocide does not matter to the world. Which is the same thing that will happen when the genocide of queer people in the U.S. reaches that level.

Because queer people don't matter and if they die, it doesn't matter. Even if they're Palestinian. Any Palestinian-American who gets put in a camp for being queer? Who cares when Biden supported the only genocide that's apparently worth caring about?

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

And I'm saying that the reason people are/were making so much noise amount about the Gaza genocide in relation to the election is because it was funded and protected by America. A genocide happening on the other side of the world and the government actively funding a genocide on the other side of the world are completely different things that call for completely different responses.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

Even if it actually happens, much worse than what?

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

Yes, I realize you want to continue litigating the election as if it matters and that doing so will somehow help Palestine.

I just don't know how it helps anything.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

Okay what point are you trying to make here? Yes other genocides exist what about that?

[auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Than what was happening under the dems.

It's already happening. US contractors on the ground, and Trump OKd ramping up in the West Bank which the dems were also blocking

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

You pretending my points that people only care about one genocide as if it's the only genocide and that people like you are still litigating the election as if it matters were not made despite my literally making both of them is noted.

Let me know when you decide to stop litigating the election and decide to actually do something that will make a change.

[saleh@feddit.org]

You will not find a more peaceful and just society on the paths presented by the oligarchy.

You will have to remove both machinations of the oligarchy from power.

[saleh@feddit.org]

With the Democrats under the control of the DNC neither. Remember how the US built an "aid pier" for hundreds of millions that never delivered aid, but instead a beachhead for an Israeli assault disguised as humanitarian aid?

Now with Trump people are forced to confront the empire and maybe resist it from within, which also helps those outside of it. In the same wake other countries like in Europe will have to confront the fact that the US was never their friend, but just gave more considerations to the appearance of mutual respect and sovereignity on the outside.

The US empire has made it clear under Biden already, that there will be no peace in the Middle East, as long as the empire can prevent it. The only route to peace is dismantling the empire and replacing it with a normal country.

[spacehooks@reddthat.com]

Imagine paying off student loans with that money.

[saleh@feddit.org]

The Democrats seemed quite fine with risking Trans people to be loaded into boxcars. Also many people immediately lasged out at ethnic minorities and queer people for not supporting the Democrats as strongly.

For the DNC they only got some considerations, when they were useful for power. Now that they didnt grant it, they got tossed aside.

Case in point all the D-Representatives now helping to vote Trump officials into elected government positions.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

I guess the answer is yes, you will keep rehashing the election even as people are being loaded into boxcars.

[coolicecream@lemmy.world]

Dont ever talk to me again
I hate you i hate you
I just wanted to be friends with you
And you made fun of me
Also im sorry, i said that about u jews and im sorry
Dont make fun of me meanie

[kikutwo@lemmy.world]

Where's all the idiots who wouldn't vote "for genocide" at?

[klear@sh.itjust.works]

I feel like we need to talk more about how disconnected the Democratic Party is from what their base actually wants

Did you feel this need before the election too? Because a lot of people did and that is who we're talking about here.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

You pretending my points that people only care about one genocide as if it's the only genocide and that people like you are still litigating the election as if it matters were not made despite my literally making both of them is noted.

You're saying that more than one genocide exists and from there deriving the conclusion that people only care about one genocide, is that correct? Because if so then, well, I think I've explained why people are making more noise about the Gaza genocide than about others. To reiterate, though, it's simply the most preventable of them and also the one most reliant on external aid that can be attacked. It's the difference between a natural disaster and a premeditated murder. So then let me ask: How do you want people to care about the Sudanese? What do you want and who do you want it do it?

Let me know when you decide to stop litigating the election and decide to actually do something that will make a change.

Okay I'm not sure what exactly you mean by litigate here. Do you mean just arguing about it? If so I'm just killing time; I'm not expecting any change to come out of this. I'm also very far from anywhere where it's even possible to do that, so... Yeah that's it I guess.

[prior_industry@lemmy.world]

You see it was impossible to take a nuanced position and vote for the lesser of two evils.