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The Gaza 'war' was a lie, as is the ceasefire. Trump just told you

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  • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

    People do not understand the significance of BRICS at all and BRICS currency. There is a concerted, sophisticated effort to get as many precious metals, gold, and oil claimed by BRICS countries as fast as possible before the BRICS currency comes out (backed by those same materials).

    Look at a list of the countries with the most gold (that they admit to having). The ones that aren't BRICS include Canada and US for example. Look in Africa - the countries with precious minerals are the ones being fought over. Even Ukraine is being fought over partially due to minerals.

    Putin owns Trump.
    https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373

    And Trump even helped out China when he withdrew from the UN Special Counsel - now China is the president. Trump is also helping out China's claims to the South China Sea by renaming the Gulf of Mexico and trying to lay claims to it.

    Hamas imo kidnapped those people due to KGB or other encouragement, then Israel/Netanyahu refused to rescue them and used them as proxy hostages gainst Biden to secute money because they had a deal with Trump and Putin. See Reagan and the Iran hostages that won him the elections - same thing. Otherwise the ceasefire in May 24 would have been agreed to (because Netanyahu thought Trump was going to lose and got cold feet, and maybe in a better timeline he did). I doubt Israel realizes that Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and all the other Islamic BRICS countries are going to backstab them for that space which is pretty sacred to them.

    Russia needs the US to become Nazis because that's what they justified the Ukraine War on and that's what they will use to invade us and Canada and Greenland for our resources. They need us to have a civil war and to be dying and poor etc before they invade.

    Trump will also be starting massive drug trafficking and human trafficking organizations. He also expanded the death penalty.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/incoming-trump-administration-plans-deport-migrants-countries-rcna182896

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-floats-foreign-imprisonment-us-criminals-repeat-offenders-rcna189522

    https://www.semafor.com/article/02/06/2025/trump-administration-container-company-to-provide-temporary-migrant-housing

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    Hamas imo kidnapped those people due to KGB or other encouragement, then Israel/Netanyahu refused to rescue them and used them as proxy hostages against Biden to secure money because they had a deal with Trump and Putin

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      I was confused by Trump's plan, because you'd think Israel would oppose it. But what if Trump is trying to extract Gaza as quid pro quo for American aid?

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      #17

      At this point in time the oligarchs and politicians are simply playing Risk, dividing up the globe for themselves.

      Whoever ends up with the most nations under their control wins.

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        Oh look, another episode of "let's pretend we care". The whole thing is a masterclass in cognitive dissonance.

        These "leaders" are like NPCs in a badly written game – first they're all "defend yourself bro" while Gaza turns to dust, then suddenly they're clutching their pearls when someone actually says the quiet part out loud.

        The brutal truth? You don't systematically obliterate infrastructure and then act surprised when it becomes uninhabitable. That’s like setting fire to someone’s house and then being shocked they can’t live in the ashes.

        Western propaganda machine working overtime to paint protesters as the bad guys while they’re literally cheerleading for apocalypse. It’s peak hypocrisy, wrapped in bureaucracy, served with a side of selective amnesia.

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        Yep. All Western leaders conveniently shove all their blame on Trump. Filthy hypocrites.

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          Oh look, another episode of "let's pretend we care". The whole thing is a masterclass in cognitive dissonance.

          These "leaders" are like NPCs in a badly written game – first they're all "defend yourself bro" while Gaza turns to dust, then suddenly they're clutching their pearls when someone actually says the quiet part out loud.

          The brutal truth? You don't systematically obliterate infrastructure and then act surprised when it becomes uninhabitable. That’s like setting fire to someone’s house and then being shocked they can’t live in the ashes.

          Western propaganda machine working overtime to paint protesters as the bad guys while they’re literally cheerleading for apocalypse. It’s peak hypocrisy, wrapped in bureaucracy, served with a side of selective amnesia.

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          first they're all "defend yourself bro" while Gaza turns to dust

          Oh come on that's total bullshit... They called anybody who tried to defend themselves a terrorist.

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            first they're all "defend yourself bro" while Gaza turns to dust

            Oh come on that's total bullshit... They called anybody who tried to defend themselves a terrorist.

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            "bro" being Israel in this case.

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              On the plus side by helping get Trump elected you've made transgender people afraid to go outside and set back the civil rights movement to the early 70s. So you didn't actually stop the genocide, you just helped accelerate it, and screwed over a bunch of minorities! What a big win for you!

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              Don't forget ICE going into schools and boarding schoolbuses so they can arrest Hispanic-looking kids. They didn't just accelerate the genocide, they imported it home.

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                If the US "owns" Gaza, as Trump insists, it will also own Gaza’s territorial waters, where there just happen to be fabulous quantities of untapped gas to enrich the enclave’s new "owner". Palestinians have, of course, never been allowed to develop their gas fields.

                Trump may even have let slip inadvertently the true death toll inflicted by Israel’s rampage. He referred to "all of them – there’s 1.7 million or maybe 1.8 million people" being forced out of Gaza.

                The population count before 7 October 2023 was between 2.2 and 2.3 million. Where are the other half a million Palestinians? Under the rubble? In unmarked graves? Eaten by feral dogs? Vaporised by 2,000lb US bombs?

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                2 days ago my guess was 200k to 500k exterminated by these monsters.

                ::: spoiler ref. to Lemmy comment here

                Hiding the genocide is high on Israeli priorities list and so in USA’s priorities list. This why we don’t know yet if it is 200,000 or 500,000 or more. But eventually we will know.
                https://lemmy.world/comment/14928513
                :::

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                  Hamas imo kidnapped those people due to KGB or other encouragement, then Israel/Netanyahu refused to rescue them and used them as proxy hostages against Biden to secure money because they had a deal with Trump and Putin

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                  I linked..... so many reputable sources. The book American Kompromat alone is solid.

                  Maybe people are talking about Russia being an issue because it really is an issue. I assume you're a psyop, because everyone else in the entire world is aware of the vast Russian and BRICS propaganda networks. That's why there have been GLOBAL protests including in Georgia and Romania.

                  You aren't even able to directly refute what I'm saying because every time the ceasefire didn't happen, it was because of issues surrounding the hostages. Russia admitted to working with Hamas.

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–Hamas_relations#:~:text=Russia has diplomatic relations with,hard line against Islamist terrorism.

                  I'll circle back here in another month when it's shown I'm right yet again. It's boring atp, eventually we'll all be dead and no one to say "I told you so," to

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                  • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                    I linked..... so many reputable sources. The book American Kompromat alone is solid.

                    Maybe people are talking about Russia being an issue because it really is an issue. I assume you're a psyop, because everyone else in the entire world is aware of the vast Russian and BRICS propaganda networks. That's why there have been GLOBAL protests including in Georgia and Romania.

                    You aren't even able to directly refute what I'm saying because every time the ceasefire didn't happen, it was because of issues surrounding the hostages. Russia admitted to working with Hamas.

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–Hamas_relations#:~:text=Russia has diplomatic relations with,hard line against Islamist terrorism.

                    I'll circle back here in another month when it's shown I'm right yet again. It's boring atp, eventually we'll all be dead and no one to say "I told you so," to

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                    Or wait listen to this crazy idea: Palestinians were locked in a concentration camp and fought back!

                    Here is a great video made by an Israeli about what happened. https://youtu.be/Pt_1k7nSv1M

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                      Or wait listen to this crazy idea: Palestinians were locked in a concentration camp and fought back!

                      Here is a great video made by an Israeli about what happened. https://youtu.be/Pt_1k7nSv1M

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                      Yeah I'm good, 1 YouTube video isn't going to negate the immense amount of geopolitical information that confirms what I'm telling you.

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                      • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                        Yeah I'm good, 1 YouTube video isn't going to negate the immense amount of geopolitical information that confirms what I'm telling you.

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                        You do not have information. Your comment was a ramble of incoherent and unconnected actors. If you think Russia was controlling Joe Biden who was sending 5 gazillion dollars in bombs to keep the genocide going you might want to rethink a lot.

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                          You do not have information. Your comment was a ramble of incoherent and unconnected actors. If you think Russia was controlling Joe Biden who was sending 5 gazillion dollars in bombs to keep the genocide going you might want to rethink a lot.

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                          Have you read American Kompromat? What about seen Active Measures? What about the literal protests happening TODAY in Slovakia? What about Georgia? What about Romania? South Korea?

                          May you suffer for hiding this information and pretending it isn't real. May as much harm come to you as you have done to the world through suppressing it. I curse you.

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                          • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                            Have you read American Kompromat? What about seen Active Measures? What about the literal protests happening TODAY in Slovakia? What about Georgia? What about Romania? South Korea?

                            May you suffer for hiding this information and pretending it isn't real. May as much harm come to you as you have done to the world through suppressing it. I curse you.

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                            Once again Biden held all the leverage on Israel. But he bypassed congress to send Israel bombs.

                            Your argument makes zero sense it requires no literature to understand who held the strings

                            It is not Putin but Israel controlling America.

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                              Once again Biden held all the leverage on Israel. But he bypassed congress to send Israel bombs.

                              Your argument makes zero sense it requires no literature to understand who held the strings

                              It is not Putin but Israel controlling America.

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                              How can he have leverage over hostages he has no access to? If Israel says, "give us more funding and we won't bomb the hostages and we will work to free them," then that's what Biden did. Do I think he did well? No. But that's not my argument, whether Biden did well. My argument is what Trump did behind the scenes.

                              Trump coordinated with Netanyahu and Putin who were in charge of their respective countries. Trump didn't have to be president for this, obviously, it wouldn't have worked if he was because he'd be blackmailing himself lol.

                              Maybe if you keep chanting "it makes zero sense," it'll be true 👍 Israel isn't "in charge" of the US (source needed, you sound like MTG and Jewish Space Lasers ppl) but they certainly were using our hostages against us.

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                                Biden also lied about it

                                Hurrrrr durrrrr

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                                Both sides both sides both sides. Let’s destroy America, woo hoo!

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                                • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                                  How can he have leverage over hostages he has no access to? If Israel says, "give us more funding and we won't bomb the hostages and we will work to free them," then that's what Biden did. Do I think he did well? No. But that's not my argument, whether Biden did well. My argument is what Trump did behind the scenes.

                                  Trump coordinated with Netanyahu and Putin who were in charge of their respective countries. Trump didn't have to be president for this, obviously, it wouldn't have worked if he was because he'd be blackmailing himself lol.

                                  Maybe if you keep chanting "it makes zero sense," it'll be true 👍 Israel isn't "in charge" of the US (source needed, you sound like MTG and Jewish Space Lasers ppl) but they certainly were using our hostages against us.

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                                  How can he have leverage over hostages he has no access to

                                  By forcing Israel to accept the ceasefire deal which Israel rejected in June or block their weapons. The ceasefire deal which Trump forced Israel to accept.

                                  What do you think of this meme by the way?

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                                    How can he have leverage over hostages he has no access to

                                    By forcing Israel to accept the ceasefire deal which Israel rejected in June or block their weapons. The ceasefire deal which Trump forced Israel to accept.

                                    What do you think of this meme by the way?

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                                    Israel accepted it when Trump became president because that was their plan all along, and Hamas accepted it because they also knew Trump didn't care about the hostages.

                                    My guess is that Biden was blocking bigger weapons, and if he withdrew completely, Israel would use those and kill the hostages. So he couldn't withdraw weapons aid if he wanted the hostages back alive if possible. Because Israel would kill them, because Israel was using them as proxy hostages. As stated.

                                    Disagree, fine, but this is a pretty consistent and clear situation.

                                    Your meme is some cringe old man shit

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                                      Israel accepted it when Trump became president because that was their plan all along, and Hamas accepted it because they also knew Trump didn't care about the hostages.

                                      My guess is that Biden was blocking bigger weapons, and if he withdrew completely, Israel would use those and kill the hostages. So he couldn't withdraw weapons aid if he wanted the hostages back alive if possible. Because Israel would kill them, because Israel was using them as proxy hostages. As stated.

                                      Disagree, fine, but this is a pretty consistent and clear situation.

                                      Your meme is some cringe old man shit

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                                      My guess is that Biden was blocking bigger weapons, and if he withdrew completely, Israel would use those and kill the hostages

                                      You mean like how Israel was already killing the hostages by decimating every single building in Gaza?

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/09/biden-administration-emergency-authority-tank-shells-israel

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                                        My guess is that Biden was blocking bigger weapons, and if he withdrew completely, Israel would use those and kill the hostages

                                        You mean like how Israel was already killing the hostages by decimating every single building in Gaza?

                                        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/09/biden-administration-emergency-authority-tank-shells-israel

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                                        Yes, I do mean that. Like how they start killing 1 hostage a day or week on purpose to add pressure. Exactly.

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                                          Yes, I do mean that. Like how they start killing 1 hostage a day or week on purpose to add pressure. Exactly.

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                                          Add pressure to who? Israel would kill every single hostage instantly if they could. The "problem" is they cannot. Because they do not know where they are.

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