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The Cybertruck Appears to Be More Deadly Than the Infamous Ford Pinto, According to a New Analysis

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    I'm guessing that some people at the National Transportation Safety Board are about to get fired by Elon Musk.

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      Cybertruck will have 14.52 fatalities per 100,000 units — far eclipsing the Pinto’s 0.85.

      Holy shit, that means the Cybertruck fatality rate is around 17 times higher than the Pinto's!

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      If you read the article is was specifically died by fire. Not any other cause of death.

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        Pedestrians would probably learn more from the experience if they don't die.

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        ^(^^s^^o^^r^^r^^y^ ^d^^r^^o^^p^^p^^e^^d^ ^/^^s^^)^

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          But it is so financially efficient! It isn't wasting money on safety.

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            I'm guessing that some people at the National Transportation Safety Board are about to get fired by Elon Musk.

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            Safety belts are a waste of precious money!

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              I love Elon Bad posts, but I think it's worthwhile to examine why Elon bad in this case.

              Like many reactionaries, Elon's business philosophy is pure tech-bro-libertarianism. And like all libertarians, he's stuck in the neoliberal mindset of less regulation (don't scrutinize) and more efficiency (let me be cheap), in order to create the safe space that industrialists need to extract, er create.

              He's literally said things like (paraphrasing)

              When I see a specification for three bolts I ask: why can't we do it with two?

              His transparent reasoning is that if he's allowed to cut corners, he'll save money today and consequences can be dealt with when they arise.

              He's following the software model of release a minimally viable product and patch it later. Only instead of user frustration at being beta testers, you fucking die maybe.

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              He is like a child who is still rebelling against his parents who made him go to bed early too many times.

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                If you read the article is was specifically died by fire. Not any other cause of death.

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                Wish I could find data on all fatalities/100,000

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                  If you read the article is was specifically died by fire. Not any other cause of death.

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                  Top of the line in utility sports.

                  Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts.

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                    You mean he drew the design with a crayon?

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                      Look, all I'm asking is that Tesla investors lose all their goddamn money.

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                      Lol. You're getting your wish. They basically would be in the red if it weren't for some credits and Bitcoin they sold.

                      https://electrek.co/2025/01/30/a-quarter-of-teslas-earnings-were-due-to-recongnizing-a-600-million-gain-on-bitcoin/

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                        Might have something to do with it looking fucking stupid.

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                        Most US trucks look fucking stupid. In my honest opinion.

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                          No shit, it's literally just a big bullet. A wrecking ball on wheels.

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                            If you read the article is was specifically died by fire. Not any other cause of death.

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                            Right but the specific issue with the Pinto was that it would explode into flames on a rear impact, so this is the appropriate metric.

                            Like deaths from other accidents would skew the numbers anyway becausd 70s cars were death traps compared to today, but even in that context, the Pinto's explosions were alarming.

                            Beating it on that isolated metric is a very special kind of achievement.

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                              Really took the wind out of my satirical comment that Musk wanted to bring back the Pinto.

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                              Who needs satire when you have reality?

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                                But at least its bulletproof!

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                                  I was thinking “What’s that red stu—oh…” Yikes.

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                                  • notsoshaihulud@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                    that's how confirmation bias works, not statistical probabilities.

                                    EM's still a nazi and the CT is a horrible joke, but this is still insufficient data.

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                                    Are you telling me that 35,000 vehicles is not a sufficient sample size to assess safety? Are you for real?

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                                      Are you telling me that 35,000 vehicles is not a sufficient sample size to assess safety? Are you for real?

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                                      No. Incidence is a measure of probability of events over time (or with cars alternatively over miles). If the number of events is low (and 4 is low), your confidence intervals are extremely wide (which is the statistical way to say, we have no idea what the real number may be).
                                      The comparison is striking, the pinto had 27 fires over 9 years in >3M vehicles.
                                      https://fuelarc.com/evs/its-official-the-cybertruck-is-more-explosive-than-the-ford-pinto/

                                      Let's add that idiots buy cybertrucks who disproportionately think it's bulletproof...

                                      Again, "analyses" like this make great clickbait but contribute very little to our understanding, and that will remain the case even regardless of you getting angry at me about it or not.

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                                        No shit, it's literally just a big bullet. A wrecking ball on wheels.

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                                        The only thing that makes the cyberfuck safe is it's pricetag and it's virgin protector looks

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                                          But at least its bulletproof!

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                                          To bb guns

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